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01-17-2009, 07:42 AM
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I also live in Ontario and have found General grabber at2(also studable) work for me. Depends on driving style. I drive Hamilton to Burlington/Mississauga over Skyway daily towing a trailer and am fine but on really icy days throw 350lbs in back when not towing so I rarely use 4wd unless playing in the deep snow 1-3 feet 3 being high drift points. But you can't beat winter tire for road only driving but I have never had to put on winter only tires on any of my trucks or suv's or jeeps only cars P.S. any wider may negate the effects of having winter only tire and be little or no better than original tires as the wider tires do loose more traction in the front end and dart a bit on heavy slush days
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01-17-2009, 09:44 AM
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Just got Cooper Discovery tires, replaced the Stock Goodyears 255/75/17 with 265/70/17. Same height and width. Much. much better in snow. We use them on all our plowing trucks.. Its a Mud and snow tire which I plan on leaving on year round. I heard the Blizzacks are of a soft compound and won t last long on dry roads..
01-20-2009, 01:11 PM
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And BFG means BF Goodrich. Your California snow may be incompatible with your type of driving and snow, but here in Colorado, with my type of driving, the BF Goodrich KM's work fine.
01-20-2009, 02:25 PM
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Just got Cooper Discovery tires, replaced the Stock Goodyears 255/75/17 with 265/70/17. Same height and width. Much. much better in snow. We use them on all our plowing trucks.. Its a Mud and snow tire which I plan on leaving on year round. I heard the Blizzacks are of a soft compound and won t last long on dry roads..
Cooper Discoverer M+S is a great winter tire studdable and great aggressive winter tread...and comes in E-load if you want.
I have run these tires on my vehicles for winter around Revelstoke and the traction is 1000X's better than any All-terrain (BFG A/T, Dick Cepek) or Mud-Terrain tire (Mickey Thompson MTZ, Toyo M/T & Cooper STT) on Wet slushy snow and ice hands down. Just from experience...buy an extra set of rims if you are considering running winter tires.
01-20-2009, 02:36 PM
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The stock BFG tires that came with my '08 Rubicon are awesome in the snow! Was doing some trails this past weekend, and the snow in places was almost 2' deep. Not once did I get stuck.
On ice they are not so great, and a siped tire would definitely be a better choice.
On ice they are not so great, and a siped tire would definitely be a better choice.
01-20-2009, 04:58 PM
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And I am fully aware that BFG means BF Goodrich. I was correcting you on saying MT/R, as thats a Good Year tire.
I get several feet of snow at my house many times a year. Hell California has more ski resorts than Colorado does (30 vs 22). So before you go off about something, do a bit of research. But then most people think everybody in California lives on the beach and surfs all day.
And I never said you couldn't drive in the snow with a mud tire. What I said is a mud tire with no sipes (like BFG MT's) suck in the snow because they have very few biting edges. As opposed to an AT or dedicated snow tire that has lots of sipes. I can guarantee you would notice a substantial difference in handling if you put on a snow tire.
01-20-2009, 05:26 PM
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Lots of inputs on snow tires. I will defenitly buy winter tires and rims to go with them. P265/70R18 or P265/75R17. To much ice on the roads where i live in northern ontario. Come summer , i can put back the original tires and rims back on the jeep. They will probably pass law to have winter tires mandatory in ontario like they did in Quebec.
01-20-2009, 06:53 PM
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Leave it to somebody who obviously knows nothing about California to talk out of his @$$.
I lived in California 7 years and am very familiar with the state. Don't be sad that someone disagrees with you. Adress your answers to the OP. I simply stated that at my house in the mountains at12,000 ' and 30' of annual snowfall, my BFG's work fine. If that doesn't fit with your experience, then simply answer the OP's question with what works for you, without disputing my well verified experience.
And I am fully aware that BFG means BF Goodrich. I was correcting you on saying MT/R, as thats a Good Year tire.
I get several feet of snow at my house many times a year. Hell California has more ski resorts than Colorado does (30 vs 22).
Let's not debate quality vs. quantity - or altitute. Tahoe is one resort but considers itself about 20. Here we don't call each run a resort. We simply have world-class large and small resorts. I wouldn't want to be the one comparing Cal. skiing to Colorado skiing.
So before you go off about something, do a bit of research. But then most people think everybody in California lives on the beach and surfs all day.
No need to research my annual driving experience. Yours may differ so stay with your experience and answer the OP from that point of view. No one says your wrong. Just stick to your own answer, it's very simple.
And I never said you couldn't drive in the snow with a mud tire. What I said is a mud tire with no sipes (like BFG MT's) suck in the snow because they have very few biting edges. As opposed to an AT or dedicated snow tire that has lots of sipes. I can guarantee you would notice a substantial difference in handling if you put on a snow tire.
I lived in California 7 years and am very familiar with the state. Don't be sad that someone disagrees with you. Adress your answers to the OP. I simply stated that at my house in the mountains at12,000 ' and 30' of annual snowfall, my BFG's work fine. If that doesn't fit with your experience, then simply answer the OP's question with what works for you, without disputing my well verified experience.
And I am fully aware that BFG means BF Goodrich. I was correcting you on saying MT/R, as thats a Good Year tire.
I get several feet of snow at my house many times a year. Hell California has more ski resorts than Colorado does (30 vs 22).
Let's not debate quality vs. quantity - or altitute. Tahoe is one resort but considers itself about 20. Here we don't call each run a resort. We simply have world-class large and small resorts. I wouldn't want to be the one comparing Cal. skiing to Colorado skiing.
So before you go off about something, do a bit of research. But then most people think everybody in California lives on the beach and surfs all day.
No need to research my annual driving experience. Yours may differ so stay with your experience and answer the OP from that point of view. No one says your wrong. Just stick to your own answer, it's very simple.
And I never said you couldn't drive in the snow with a mud tire. What I said is a mud tire with no sipes (like BFG MT's) suck in the snow because they have very few biting edges. As opposed to an AT or dedicated snow tire that has lots of sipes. I can guarantee you would notice a substantial difference in handling if you put on a snow tire.
You'll see that my answer stated that from my experience......... something you can't intelligently comment on. Relax and enjoy your snowy town.
You'll notice a number of posters whose stock tires do great for them - even those from Canada who, like me, get a tad more snow than you.
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01-23-2009, 09:01 AM
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Cooper Discoverer M+S is a great winter tire. I had a set on my pick up truck and man what a difference! Good grip on ice and good traction in snow- Don't know hoe they were in the mud as I never really went up to axles often enough.
When I first had my JK the stock tires were good in the snow, but I have a 07 and the wear is noticeable in the snow now.
If you can afford a set of cooper's I would recommend them without hesitation.
When I first had my JK the stock tires were good in the snow, but I have a 07 and the wear is noticeable in the snow now.
If you can afford a set of cooper's I would recommend them without hesitation.
02-02-2009, 08:42 PM
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I got a set of snow tires and rims for the winter.
I'm running P265/70R17. Bridgestone Blizzak DMZ3.
No complaints with them at all, and i'm saving my 18" rims from all this salt!!
The size difference is pretty close, no rubbing issues
Stock 32.1" diameter
Winter 31.7" diameter
I'm running P265/70R17. Bridgestone Blizzak DMZ3.
No complaints with them at all, and i'm saving my 18" rims from all this salt!!
The size difference is pretty close, no rubbing issues
Stock 32.1" diameter
Winter 31.7" diameter