Why is stock suspension so firm?
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JK Junkie
Tires certainly play a roll in the 'feel' of the suspension. I air my Goodrich tires to 44psi when I tow. Definitely makes the suspension feel stiffer compared to the 36-38 psi I run when not towing. Especially feel on bridge expansion joints.
#13
JK Super Freak
Any solid front axle vehicle I have had rode harsher than IFS, unsprung weight seems to matter. Maybe that is perception on my part though. But shocks, tire pressure and type do matter also. Wheel base length seems to make a difference.
As already noted probably some of it is just design limitations that make it able to articulate the suspension offroad while remaining stable at speed.
As already noted probably some of it is just design limitations that make it able to articulate the suspension offroad while remaining stable at speed.
Last edited by Yankee; 11-26-2012 at 03:16 AM.
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Originally Posted by Yankee
Any solid front axle vehicle I have had rode harsher than IFS, unsprung weight seems to matter. Maybe that is perception on my part though. But shocks, tire pressure and type do matter also. Wheel base length seems to make a difference.
As already noted probably some of it is just design limitations that make it able to articulate the suspension offroad while remaining stable at speed.
As already noted probably some of it is just design limitations that make it able to articulate the suspension offroad while remaining stable at speed.
That said, those of us that have been owning Jeeps for a while will tell you that the JK has the smoothest ride ever... By far!
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Thanks!! That all makes sense. I'm not unhappy with the ride of my JK, I was just curious. It seemed to me that a softer suspension would be better off-road to soak up the rough terrain but now I understand why firmer (compared to a passenger car) is needed.
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Think about a soft suspension off road; going fast toward an incline and if the suspension was soft it would bottom out; you would nose dive into the hill rather than climb it. Going over rocks just bouncing around would just keep bottoming out.
The main reason is that a vehicle that has a high center of gravity and short/narrow wheelbase would be even more dangerous and apt to roll over if it had a soft suspension. That is why lift kits are even stiffer because you are raising the center of gravity and causing more of a hazard.
Go around a bend too fast with a soft suspension and it will roll over easier.
The main reason is that a vehicle that has a high center of gravity and short/narrow wheelbase would be even more dangerous and apt to roll over if it had a soft suspension. That is why lift kits are even stiffer because you are raising the center of gravity and causing more of a hazard.
Go around a bend too fast with a soft suspension and it will roll over easier.
#17
JK Super Freak
So, the suspension changes were: More suspension travel with longer springs and shocks, and high-end bump stops that don't rebound like those little rubber bump-stop turds. The longer shocks are mono-tubes which cool a lot better, 'tho not as well as remote res. shocks would.
The ride is about the same as with stock Rubi springs and shocks. On big bumps at speed, the combination of more travel, better shocks, and better bump stops let the suspension "work" without hitting its limits. The Jeep sits about 2 1/2 inches taller thanks to the longer springs, and the suspension has about 2" more travel at the wheels.