[QUOTE=matthew2000tx;266610]ok so i'm the guy who had his 4wd stick broke and now that i saw this thread thanks to matthew i have an idea what might be wrong and if this is it here comes the duct tape to fix it

but honestly this is a very bad problem and i'm thinking about getting a t-case from a TJ rubicon or something and modding it on

can u tell me how you got to the lever and stuff i cant seem to get into it?

 

Just a thought that plays back to my original comment… all quality vehicles are built with brake points ie: easy fix parts that are designed to fail before something major goes… It would certainly seem plausible that such a part would be built into your shifter mechanism. So Before you go trying to solve this mystic problem take your jeep to the dealer and let them fix it the correct way and maybe figure out why it broke in the first place… But if you go machine an unbreakable set up your going to end up braking something much more expensive next time. Relax, your Jeep is built correctly… it's just tired of being seconded guessed at every turn.

 

I'm with tazz on this. It's a failure point for a reason.

 

Question 1.) locking out the hubs of the f-150? This one is mysterious. I assume you reached a point of having to engage 4wd in the Jeep to maintain forward momentum? Well without knowing what size tires you have on the ford I suspect the trail was easier due to the difference in wheelbase. It's about the only plausible explanation. Except maybe track. It's also wider. Stock tires have gotten pretty good size on modern fords, though I don't recall that being the case back in '96
There's certainly nothing magic about ANY trucks rear traction. (thanks to the light rear ends)

Granny gear? Having driven the 6 speep only once , I had to ask a co-worker about his with the 4.10 gears. He considers first gear optional. That's pretty close to the way I remember it too. That puts it the neighborhood of granny gear, but really granny gears tend to show up in towing type vehicles which the jeep still doesn't try to do much with.

Bent to hell skid plates? Well It sounds like someone's having fun. I haven't scraped mine once in route to or back from the grocerie store. I have done some serious dragging over some obstacles in the mountains. My gas tank skid isn't quite the same shape it used to be for sure. But at least it has one there. Oil pan skid? Don't think jeep has ever had one on it's cj/wrangler line.
Really if your tires & lift are about the same I would expect you to bang up your jeep less. Even with 4 doors it should have better break over than a truck. I'm pretty sure approch is better on the jeep & there's no question about departure angles.

Ok - lock out hubs. Yuck. I don't have a lunch box locker so I don't much care for them. Thes are pretty hard to find on modern 4wds. I'm sure someone still offers them, but honestly I'll spend the money on selectable lockers when the time comes. Probably the ox unit. No on road ill effects from these either.

Really it sounds like you are missing the 4wd's of old. They have added a lot of stuff that many here deem unnecessary. Some of it is for sure.

Last but not least remember jeep delivered a solid axel front & manual shift xfer case in your budget. Everything has a cost

 

Lock out hubs are still used on many new vehicles. They will save you fuel and front end wear and tear.

But if you forget or are lazy and then get into a mud pit it is no fun trying to turn it "on".

Do the Ox lockers disengage above a certain speed?

 

They are cable actuated lockers. No compressor required. Less points of failure.
Now I'm off to look for manual hubs on current 4wd vehicles. I said I'm sure someone offers them. I just don't recall seeing any on recent model years.

I'll report what I find. And yes I understand thier function. I even wheel with some guys with older model trucks that have them. Last trip out they saved the day for a guy who twisted an axle shaft & broke a universal up front.

 

That linkage has been used by ford for 15 years with no problem. In fact they are a real pain to disconnect when working on the trans. So maybe the plastic grommet is defective. Not a bad design Youre ford has them unless you have electric 4wd shift.

 

Warn has hubs

 

well yes they do. I was looking yesterday for an OEM install. Didn't see one at the ford web site.

 

More screwed-up than I expected. Looked at it in detail today. It's a cable system that moves the t-case lecver, so that when it gets water in the cable cover it will freeze up and again leave me with a useless Tcase when the temps dip below freezing. Not to mention that any kind of water or dirt that gets in there will freeze it up after time. Just another design made to fail so you have to fork over more money to the dealer.