View Poll Results: Have you experienced the "Stall Bug"?
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"Stall Bug" Poll
04-23-2007, 09:11 AM
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"Stall Bug" Poll
After experiencing the "Stall Bug" this weekend, I am curious to find out how many of you have experienced the "Stall Bug". I read through the posts and threads on it, and I think I came up with about 50 people. I also looked on safercar.gov and found about 30 official complaints. I am taking mine in tomorrow, and if I find anything out, I'll be sure to post the info. I am worried, however, because from what I've read, it sounds like there's no fix at this point.
Anyway, here is a poll to find out how many have or have not experienced the "Stall Bug".
Added: Also read my post below about an investigation into a "Stall Bug" affecting Commanders---sounds very familiar...
Anyway, here is a poll to find out how many have or have not experienced the "Stall Bug".
Added: Also read my post below about an investigation into a "Stall Bug" affecting Commanders---sounds very familiar...
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04-23-2007, 09:20 AM
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If this is a dumb idea please disregard, but maybe there should be 4 categories: Yes and have cruise, Yes and dont have cruise, No and have cruise and No and don't have cruise. Also, maybe you should have to have at least 2000 miles on your jeep to vote, cuz a vote from a new guy will only skew the poll.
04-23-2007, 09:52 AM
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NHTSA Investigation into Commander "Stall Bug"
I have spent my morning researching the "Stall Bug" issue, and I came across some info I thought you guys might be interested in. It seems that the NHTSA has opened an investigation into a "Stall Bug" that is affecting Commanders. Here's the link:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...ct/results.cfm
It sounds very much like the issue we're experiencing in our JK's.
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It looks like the link didn't work quite right, so here is the text copied from the site:
ODI HAS RECEIVED 50 VEHICLE OWNER COMPLAINTS ALLEGING INCIDENTS OF ENGINE STALL WHILE DRIVING IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2006-2007 JEEP COMMANDER VEHICLES (SUBJECT VEHICLES). THIRTEEN OF THE COMPLAINTS REPORTED ONE OR MORE INCIDENTS OF ENGINE STALL WITH A SIMULTANEOUS LOSS OF SOME OR ALL LIGHTING SYSTEMS, INCLUDING HEADLAMPS. ONE ENGINE STALL RESULTED IN A VEHICLE CRASH. THE MAJORITY OF COMPLAINT VEHICLES WERE EQUIPPED WITH 4.7L V8 ENGINES, BUT SIMILAR COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR THE 3.7L V6 AND THE 5.7L V8 ENGINES. NEARLY HALF OF THE COMPLAINTS INDICATED THAT THE STALL EVENTS OCCURRED AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS AND IN TRAFFIC. A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION HAS BEEN OPENED TO ASSESS THE FREQUENCY, SCOPE AND POTENTIAL SAFETY CONSEQUENCES OF THE ALLEGED DEFECT.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...ct/results.cfm
It sounds very much like the issue we're experiencing in our JK's.
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It looks like the link didn't work quite right, so here is the text copied from the site:
ODI HAS RECEIVED 50 VEHICLE OWNER COMPLAINTS ALLEGING INCIDENTS OF ENGINE STALL WHILE DRIVING IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2006-2007 JEEP COMMANDER VEHICLES (SUBJECT VEHICLES). THIRTEEN OF THE COMPLAINTS REPORTED ONE OR MORE INCIDENTS OF ENGINE STALL WITH A SIMULTANEOUS LOSS OF SOME OR ALL LIGHTING SYSTEMS, INCLUDING HEADLAMPS. ONE ENGINE STALL RESULTED IN A VEHICLE CRASH. THE MAJORITY OF COMPLAINT VEHICLES WERE EQUIPPED WITH 4.7L V8 ENGINES, BUT SIMILAR COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR THE 3.7L V6 AND THE 5.7L V8 ENGINES. NEARLY HALF OF THE COMPLAINTS INDICATED THAT THE STALL EVENTS OCCURRED AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS AND IN TRAFFIC. A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION HAS BEEN OPENED TO ASSESS THE FREQUENCY, SCOPE AND POTENTIAL SAFETY CONSEQUENCES OF THE ALLEGED DEFECT.
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04-23-2007, 10:04 AM
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I have spent my morning researching the "Stall Bug" issue, and I came across some info I thought you guys might be interested in. It seems that the NHTSA has opened an investigation into a "Stall Bug" that is affecting Commanders. Here's the link:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...ct/results.cfm
It sounds very much like the issue we're experiencing in our JK's.
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It looks like the link didn't work quite right, so here is the text copied from the site:
ODI HAS RECEIVED 50 VEHICLE OWNER COMPLAINTS ALLEGING INCIDENTS OF ENGINE STALL WHILE DRIVING IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2006-2007 JEEP COMMANDER VEHICLES (SUBJECT VEHICLES). THIRTEEN OF THE COMPLAINTS REPORTED ONE OR MORE INCIDENTS OF ENGINE STALL WITH A SIMULTANEOUS LOSS OF SOME OR ALL LIGHTING SYSTEMS, INCLUDING HEADLAMPS. ONE ENGINE STALL RESULTED IN A VEHICLE CRASH. THE MAJORITY OF COMPLAINT VEHICLES WERE EQUIPPED WITH 4.7L V8 ENGINES, BUT SIMILAR COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR THE 3.7L V6 AND THE 5.7L V8 ENGINES. NEARLY HALF OF THE COMPLAINTS INDICATED THAT THE STALL EVENTS OCCURRED AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS AND IN TRAFFIC. A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION HAS BEEN OPENED TO ASSESS THE FREQUENCY, SCOPE AND POTENTIAL SAFETY CONSEQUENCES OF THE ALLEGED DEFECT.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...ct/results.cfm
It sounds very much like the issue we're experiencing in our JK's.
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It looks like the link didn't work quite right, so here is the text copied from the site:
ODI HAS RECEIVED 50 VEHICLE OWNER COMPLAINTS ALLEGING INCIDENTS OF ENGINE STALL WHILE DRIVING IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2006-2007 JEEP COMMANDER VEHICLES (SUBJECT VEHICLES). THIRTEEN OF THE COMPLAINTS REPORTED ONE OR MORE INCIDENTS OF ENGINE STALL WITH A SIMULTANEOUS LOSS OF SOME OR ALL LIGHTING SYSTEMS, INCLUDING HEADLAMPS. ONE ENGINE STALL RESULTED IN A VEHICLE CRASH. THE MAJORITY OF COMPLAINT VEHICLES WERE EQUIPPED WITH 4.7L V8 ENGINES, BUT SIMILAR COMPLAINTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR THE 3.7L V6 AND THE 5.7L V8 ENGINES. NEARLY HALF OF THE COMPLAINTS INDICATED THAT THE STALL EVENTS OCCURRED AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS AND IN TRAFFIC. A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION HAS BEEN OPENED TO ASSESS THE FREQUENCY, SCOPE AND POTENTIAL SAFETY CONSEQUENCES OF THE ALLEGED DEFECT.
If it was clearly the fault of the engine; who pays the insurance?
04-23-2007, 10:07 AM
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04-23-2007, 10:08 AM
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I was lucky that mine stalled while I was stopped. I am scared to death about the possibility of it happening while on the freeway or a winding mountain road. I am trying to go over scenarios in my mind and trying to plan how to react if various situations arise. I shouldn't have to do that--none of us should have to. A brand new vehicle should be safe to drive.
04-23-2007, 10:17 AM
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I am really hoping that the NHTSA will realize that the JK's seem to have the same issue as the Commanders and add them to the investigation.
I was lucky that mine stalled while I was stopped. I am scared to death about the possibility of it happening while on the freeway or a winding mountain road. I am trying to go over scenarios in my mind and trying to plan how to react if various situations arise. I shouldn't have to do that--none of us should have to. A brand new vehicle should be safe to drive.
I was lucky that mine stalled while I was stopped. I am scared to death about the possibility of it happening while on the freeway or a winding mountain road. I am trying to go over scenarios in my mind and trying to plan how to react if various situations arise. I shouldn't have to do that--none of us should have to. A brand new vehicle should be safe to drive.
How and with whom do we start filing our complaints?
04-23-2007, 10:26 AM
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How and with whom do we start filing our complaints?[/QUOTE]
You can file the complaint on www.safercar.gov or by calling 1-888-327-4236.
I actually just got off the phone with them. I guess I'm on a mission today!!
I decided to call them and point out that they have 30 complaints on the Wrangler that sound almost identical to the Commander investigation. Hopefully by bringing it to their attention, they will at least take a look at it.
To see the 30 complaints, you have to look at all Wrangler categories (i.e. Wrangler 4-DR 4X4, Wrangler 2-DR 4X4, Wrangler 4-DR 4X2, Wranger X RHD 4X4, and Wrangler).
You can file the complaint on www.safercar.gov or by calling 1-888-327-4236.
I actually just got off the phone with them. I guess I'm on a mission today!!
I decided to call them and point out that they have 30 complaints on the Wrangler that sound almost identical to the Commander investigation. Hopefully by bringing it to their attention, they will at least take a look at it. To see the 30 complaints, you have to look at all Wrangler categories (i.e. Wrangler 4-DR 4X4, Wrangler 2-DR 4X4, Wrangler 4-DR 4X2, Wranger X RHD 4X4, and Wrangler).