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Old 08-14-2012 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ccuchris

Perhaps the reason I am so upset is I paid cash or rather traded my 38000 MSRP 2012 Grand cherokee 8000 miles on it even (I paid cash for it) for the 12 Sahara even EVEN out the door. Why? Because the 2012 Grand Cherokee was experiencing multiple probles msuch as cheap interior (seems so trivial now) remote start would not work even after three tries to fix it and I know I was hearing the beginnings of an engine tick.. ALSO the thing would roll backward on the slightest of incllines. So what did I do?? I lost atleast 8000.00
And I didnt jump out of the frying pan and into the fire as they say I feel like I coated myself with lighter fluid first before the jump BECAUSE I BOUGHT ANOTHER ONE OF THE POS . And all of you prasinig the 800 number I dont know why. My problems were not addressed not fixed in fact they just stoipped returning my calls. PERIOD. I thought ti was a fluke since I had good experience with both my Challengers. I was wrong.

Also understand they knew these Jeeps were failing and thhey kept right on selling them. To me, that seems unethical

EDIT: I am really sick of people telling me to be a nice guy. for the record I am a very nice guy. But what does being a nice guy get you? It gets you smiled at and pushed out the door. Dont patronize me and tell me to be a nice guy or I m not handling it right I was jsut sold a 31000 brand new car that is faulty. I dont know what kinda money you make but mine doesnt come easy and I SURE AS HELL AM NOT THROWING IT AWAY ANYMORE TO THIWS SHAM OF A COMPANY! I am seriously considering wrign something on my rear window such as "2012 Wranglers blow heads BEWARE" and riding up and down in front of the dealer. Because being nice is not some magic bullet. Its real easy to critisize when you have convinced yourself somehow this wont happen to you.. Guess what I think its gonna be all of them in the end 100% and I think Chrysler will go belly up and to that as long as I m rid of it I SAY GOOD!

AND YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE DECIDED I m not donig any leg work what so ever. Bring my own buyer? Are you serious? No this dealer is going to fix this for me to my liking or I am going to file every complaint with every agency and post on every message board. I am not going to fix their shittty deal for them TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILIUTY DEALERS OR OPEN A KIA FRANCHISE I HEAR THOSE SELL PRETTY WELL!
WTH ??

Ok so you have a shtty dealer who has shtty service who seems to be getting the shtty stock from Chrysler. Why not find another dealer to fix your issues on your Wrangler ??

I agree the GC has a cheap interior.

Wait or could it be your just "ticked off"

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Old 08-14-2012 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Chadc880
WTH ??

Ok so you have a shtty dealer who has shtty service who seems to be getting the shtty stock from Chrysler. Why not find another dealer to fix your issues on your Wrangler ??

I agree the GC has a cheap interior.

Wait or could it be your just "ticked off"
I m on my third shitty dealer. How far do I need to drive? I really think its Chryslers fault though, they allow this to happen you think i m the first guy to complain? And for the jerk who think s he is being sarcastic, and tring to use asick baby to make his case come on. How about this what if the guy had a sick baby and on top of that has t sit in a Jeep delaership and hear this BS> get real .he must not have read the part where I said I was a nice guy to them. But you know at some point you got to get a grip and get something done. I dont care anymore. Its all Jeeps and Chryslers and Dodges. People tried to tell me but I wouldnt listen.

You know its not jsut this thread or this issue. Look over the threads you got two kinds.. People wanitng to brag about there addons and gully jumpin and then people complaining about their oil usage engine ticks and misc failures of the vehicle.

The jist of it all is you dont spend this kind of money on a BRAND NEW CAR to have trouble. It is just as simple as that. And a warranty is in case something goes wrong not because your planning or expecting it from the start.



I might not listen next time but will make my mistakes somewhere else Spread my money around and let everyone screw me.

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Old 08-14-2012 | 09:57 PM
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Ok now I'm really confused. Ok not really but on 7-22 you started a thread looking for other 12 owners with higher mileage then your Sahara of 1,000 miles because you were paranoid.

It's Aug 15 and all this crap with the dealer and this new found tick has happened since your post ?
Old 08-14-2012 | 10:31 PM
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yes developed tick after first oil change 3500 (yep I put some miles on a car) I bought the car joined the forum and bam there it was ENgine Problems. Of course I was paranoid just as many others are. the difference is it is not paranoia anymore. So on 7-22 the thread I started was actually looking to make myself feel better. The thread was asking for milage over 10,000 2012 model and It got a few posts from a few people who had no problems maybe 5 then people started posting like 500 miles week old no tick which was not what I asked but i was never rude to anyone to say hey buddy wrong thread or anyhting I just kept reading and then the thread died off. So I am left to wonder was it indeed Paranoia? or Preminition?

Either way I got the tick now and my dealer is trying to act like well you know.......... like a dealer acts when they got your money and nothing you can do about it.

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Old 08-14-2012 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by vulcan classic
Update:

Just rolled over 12000 miles and all seems well so far nearly 2 months after the head replacement on left side, and as mentioned the right side is noisier then the left; I'm averaging about 18.5-19 MPG. around town vs. 17-17.5 before the head replacement.
I've got over 1000 miles on mine and 17.7 is the best I've pulled so far, even with 1/2 tank of highway, driving nicely. I'm seeing a head replacement in my future...
Old 08-14-2012 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gort
I've got over 1000 miles on mine and 17.7 is the best I've pulled so far, even with 1/2 tank of highway, driving nicely. I'm seeing a head replacement in my future...
just for the record, my milage improved significantly between 1200 miles and about 3200. I went from about 17-18 average with a ton of highway driving to 22 with the same habits roads trips and travels. Then suddenly it went back to like it was before. Now I am back to 16.9 and that really hurts. I drive the same trip twice a week Myrtle beach to charlotte to myrtle beach so nothing has changed not even the temperature. And yeah I run the ac all the time.
Old 08-15-2012 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ccuchris
just for the record, my milage improved significantly between 1200 miles and about 3200. I went from about 17-18 average with a ton of highway driving to 22 with the same habits roads trips and travels. Then suddenly it went back to like it was before. Now I am back to 16.9 and that really hurts. I drive the same trip twice a week Myrtle beach to charlotte to myrtle beach so nothing has changed not even the temperature. And yeah I run the ac all the time.
Granted I am still under 1000 miles on my 2012, but the best I have seen so far is 15.7 while driving in the Eco range at all times with mixed city/highway driving. This is pretty crappy mileage if you ask me, especially when people are consistently reporting 19-22 mpg. I have a tick upon startup on my motor but quite honestly I believe that to be a characteristic of both Chrysler motors (in my experience) and Variable Valve Timing.

I hope that you get your issue squared away and I hope that Chrysler handles every single one of these proposed bad heads appropriately, including mine.
Old 08-15-2012 | 12:48 AM
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What gearing do you have in your JK? Mine hovers at 17ish in the city, but skyrockets to well over 20 sometimes 25 on flat runs on the highway. I'm rocking the 3.23 gears.

Every motor I've heard recently has some type of valve train clatter. I'm just so paranoid about this right now that I don't even listen to my radio. All I hear is regular ticking and putting. I did notice a significant change in sound between 2500 and 3000 rpm after about 700 miles.
Old 08-15-2012 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ccuchris

Perhaps the reason I am so upset is I paid cash or rather traded my 38000 MSRP 2012 Grand cherokee 8000 miles on it even (I paid cash for it) for the 12 Sahara even EVEN out the door. Why? Because the 2012 Grand Cherokee was experiencing multiple probles msuch as cheap interior (seems so trivial now) remote start would not work even after three tries to fix it and I know I was hearing the beginnings of an engine tick.. ALSO the thing would roll backward on the slightest of incllines. So what did I do?? I lost atleast 8000.00
And I didnt jump out of the frying pan and into the fire as they say I feel like I coated myself with lighter fluid first before the jump BECAUSE I BOUGHT ANOTHER ONE OF THE POS . And all of you prasinig the 800 number I dont know why. My problems were not addressed not fixed in fact they just stoipped returning my calls. PERIOD. I thought ti was a fluke since I had good experience with both my Challengers. I was wrong.

Also understand they knew these Jeeps were failing and thhey kept right on selling them. To me, that seems unethical

EDIT: I am really sick of people telling me to be a nice guy. for the record I am a very nice guy. But what does being a nice guy get you? It gets you smiled at and pushed out the door. Dont patronize me and tell me to be a nice guy or I m not handling it right I was jsut sold a 31000 brand new car that is faulty. I dont know what kinda money you make but mine doesnt come easy and I SURE AS HELL AM NOT THROWING IT AWAY ANYMORE TO THIWS SHAM OF A COMPANY! I am seriously considering wrign something on my rear window such as "2012 Wranglers blow heads BEWARE" and riding up and down in front of the dealer. Because being nice is not some magic bullet. Its real easy to critisize when you have convinced yourself somehow this wont happen to you.. Guess what I think its gonna be all of them in the end 100% and I think Chrysler will go belly up and to that as long as I m rid of it I SAY GOOD!

AND YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE DECIDED I m not donig any leg work what so ever. Bring my own buyer? Are you serious? No this dealer is going to fix this for me to my liking or I am going to file every complaint with every agency and post on every message board. I am not going to fix their shittty deal for them TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILIUTY DEALERS OR OPEN A KIA FRANCHISE I HEAR THOSE SELL PRETTY WELL!
Well, you start off reasonable then jump into ass-mode on me. I'm not patronizing you, I'm trying to help. I'm not your f-ing dealer. Direct your anger where it should go - to someone in real life who can help you - or - grow some balls and sell your Jeep and stop crying like a 2 year old.
Old 08-15-2012 | 06:41 AM
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So let me see if I have your story straight...

On 08-04-2012, 03:25 PM you posted this

Originally Posted by ccuchris
couldnt agree more mine isnt even ticking but not like I can enjoy it since I m so paranoid and always listening thought I might have heard the tick yesterday 3100 miles but am I paranoid?

And just 3 days later you post this... 08-07-2012, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by ccuchris
Went to the dealer over a leak and mentioned the tick had started was berated and called a liar by service manager and was first told out of 600 Jeeps they only had one with a head replacement.
And just another 4 more days... 08-11-2012, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by ccuchris
You know I have about decided. After the berating I took from the service manager at Black Chrysler Dodge in Statesville NC last Monday, I am considering just throwing in the towel. It would be worth...

You know I call B.S.!!! on your part. 11 days ago you had no tick but admit that you are "paranoid". Somewhere over the course of 3 days, you've supposedly developed a tick took it to a dealer, and they couldn't hear this tick that probably doesn't exist, and you get all bent out of shape for nothing. and then 4 days later you've "Thrown in the towel." With as much time as you've spent on here in the last week bitching about anything and everything about the last 6 Chrysler cars you've owned, where did you find the time to have gone through 3 shitty dealers? You are the true definition of a troll. I don't even believe you even own a 2012 JK at this point. I think you are a Toyota JK owner on here starting crap. And if you really do have a 2012 JK with a tick, I'm going to just have to call that carma.



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