Gad mileage sucks !!
#61
Thanks so much for the information. My Jeep right now is a bone stock 2013 JKUR 275/75R17 w/ 4.10s, the 3.6L, and 10k mi. My manual says to use 87 so that's all that I have been using. Tires right now are running at 38psi. I have not run any injector cleaner. 4th oil change is coming up along with 2nd tire rotation. Service Manager was surprised at the MPGs and was going to look into it. Highway speed is usually 65 or so w/ cruise on. The 4.10s combined with the less than aerodynamic design certainly will thwart good fuel mileage, but hell, I didn't buy it for that reason. Somehow, maybe wrongly so, I figured it would do better than averaging about y12-13 around town and 16-17 on the highway.
Jeep Blackout - What fuel injector product are you using? I've owned a couple sport cars besides pretty much always having a Jeep, and I've never used any injector product...
OP - 38 psi? When I got my new axles and regeard and went to 37's the first road trip we did was 180 miles each way, and the ride wasn't very good, you could feel every little bump in the road...
Half way on the return to home I pulled over and checked the psi and the guys had inflated them to 39 psi!
as soon as we got home I grabbed my ARB air down tool and I lowered it to 28 and the ride was wonderful, it was better than stock and better than with my 33's.
i know your talking about gas mileage, but how is your ride quality? And how did you come up with such a high psi?
matthew
#62
Jeep Blackout - What fuel injector product are you using? I've owned a couple sport cars besides pretty much always having a Jeep, and I've never used any injector product...
OP - 38 psi? When I got my new axles and regeard and went to 37's the first road trip we did was 180 miles each way, and the ride wasn't very good, you could feel every little bump in the road...
Half way on the return to home I pulled over and checked the psi and the guys had inflated them to 39 psi!
as soon as we got home I grabbed my ARB air down tool and I lowered it to 28 and the ride was wonderful, it was better than stock and better than with my 33's.
i know your talking about gas mileage, but how is your ride quality? And how did you come up with such a high psi?
matthew
OP - 38 psi? When I got my new axles and regeard and went to 37's the first road trip we did was 180 miles each way, and the ride wasn't very good, you could feel every little bump in the road...
Half way on the return to home I pulled over and checked the psi and the guys had inflated them to 39 psi!
as soon as we got home I grabbed my ARB air down tool and I lowered it to 28 and the ride was wonderful, it was better than stock and better than with my 33's.
i know your talking about gas mileage, but how is your ride quality? And how did you come up with such a high psi?
matthew
#63
Know whats absolutely hilarious about all of these mileage threads? There is no way to get an average. Jeeps are customized. Jeeps are driven with different right feet, in different environments with different tires.
When you get unmodified, stock, cars giving variable mpg across the nation, how can modified vehicles compare? If the owner wants mpg, leave it completely stock. Changing tire size or type means your rig is no longer bone stock. Tires alone can drag mpg down by 2 or more. Not even extra lights, roof rack or a winch. Keep the windows up; doors on; AC off. Slowly accelerate up to speed of less than 65 mph; coast instead of braking; time your lights in city traffic. Try not to be the lead vehicle that pushes air for others, draft if possible.
Drag cd of cars range from mid 26 up to 34 with lower number cd the better. Stock JK has cd of 50.
When you get unmodified, stock, cars giving variable mpg across the nation, how can modified vehicles compare? If the owner wants mpg, leave it completely stock. Changing tire size or type means your rig is no longer bone stock. Tires alone can drag mpg down by 2 or more. Not even extra lights, roof rack or a winch. Keep the windows up; doors on; AC off. Slowly accelerate up to speed of less than 65 mph; coast instead of braking; time your lights in city traffic. Try not to be the lead vehicle that pushes air for others, draft if possible.
Drag cd of cars range from mid 26 up to 34 with lower number cd the better. Stock JK has cd of 50.
Last edited by BlackRockBurner; 01-30-2014 at 03:55 PM.
#64
It seems to me it is just simple aerodynamics. Pushing 80 mph with a JK's profile takes a lot of power which equals more fuel. The corn liquer they waste by putting it in gasoline here does not help. Seems like I read long ago that once you are moving a lot of the power an engine uses is just from pushing the air aside.
I have seen 18 mpg at 60 with a tailwind, and 15 driving the same road with a strong headwind. Different speeds would affect it the same way.
Plus I do not feel the JK, at least the 2 door, handles all that safe at 80+ anyway. Unless I feel like jumping on the gas for a brief time, 70 mph seems a comfortable speed for the handling limitations.
Be careful fellow jeepers because any required rapid directional/braking change in a JK at 80+ might cause a high pucker factor. At least compared to a sporty car.
I have seen 18 mpg at 60 with a tailwind, and 15 driving the same road with a strong headwind. Different speeds would affect it the same way.
Plus I do not feel the JK, at least the 2 door, handles all that safe at 80+ anyway. Unless I feel like jumping on the gas for a brief time, 70 mph seems a comfortable speed for the handling limitations.
Be careful fellow jeepers because any required rapid directional/braking change in a JK at 80+ might cause a high pucker factor. At least compared to a sporty car.
#65
It seems to me it is just simple aerodynamics. Pushing 80 mph with a JK's profile takes a lot of power which equals more fuel. The corn liquer they waste by putting it in gasoline here does not help. Seems like I read long ago that once you are moving a lot of the power an engine uses is just from pushing the air aside.
I have seen 18 mpg at 60 with a tailwind, and 15 driving the same road with a strong headwind. Different speeds would affect it the same way.
Plus I do not feel the JK, at least the 2 door, handles all that safe at 80+ anyway. Unless I feel like jumping on the gas for a brief time, 70 mph seems a comfortable speed for the handling limitations.
Be careful fellow jeepers because any required rapid directional/braking change in a JK at 80+ might cause a high pucker factor. At least compared to a sporty car.
I have seen 18 mpg at 60 with a tailwind, and 15 driving the same road with a strong headwind. Different speeds would affect it the same way.
Plus I do not feel the JK, at least the 2 door, handles all that safe at 80+ anyway. Unless I feel like jumping on the gas for a brief time, 70 mph seems a comfortable speed for the handling limitations.
Be careful fellow jeepers because any required rapid directional/braking change in a JK at 80+ might cause a high pucker factor. At least compared to a sporty car.
i guess people just need to realize that they bought a brick aerodynamically wise.
matthew
#67
Jeep Blackout - What fuel injector product are you using? I've owned a couple sport cars besides pretty much always having a Jeep, and I've never used any injector product... OP - 38 psi? When I got my new axles and regeard and went to 37's the first road trip we did was 180 miles each way, and the ride wasn't very good, you could feel every little bump in the road... Half way on the return to home I pulled over and checked the psi and the guys had inflated them to 39 psi! as soon as we got home I grabbed my ARB air down tool and I lowered it to 28 and the ride was wonderful, it was better than stock and better than with my 33's. i know your talking about gas mileage, but how is your ride quality? And how did you come up with such a high psi? matthew
Also here are some speed recommendations for different sized tires.
Obviously from discount.