Someone posted this on Rubicon Forum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyIDN...eature=related

 

TOMA!!!! That spotter looked like he was smoking mad amounts of la yerba buena.


Russ D.

 

That spotter is a fucking idiot, And has NO business "spotting" anyone. Learn some clear and concise hand signals!

 

I think there's more to the spotter than meets the eyes.

Did he (but it looks more like a she) turn up at the event driving a - H3
- H2
- FJ Cruiser
- CRV

Something nefarious went down there and a Jeeper paid for it.

An airlift and a write-off...keep that D-head away from anything in the future.

Oh just a thought maybe they're an F'N expert....that as well as home inspections..multi-task?

 

The spotter needs his a$$ kicked.

 

My question is not who called that spotter a D*** S****,
but rather who called that D*** S**** a spotter to begin with.
I agree with Toad that his signals were confusing .
Wonder what he was thinking having her go high like that??
We ll never know.
JMHO.

 

i wish i could say that this was simply unbelievable and that there's no way this should have happend but unfortunately, i'm surprised that things like this don't happen more often. honestly, in spite of what some may think of their own spotting abilities, i find that a lot of people spot this poorly and that is the reason why i'm extremely picky as to who i'd allow to spot me. judging by what i saw in the video, i don't even think this gal was aired down or disconnected and i don't think any of these people were experienced wheelers. if one of them were, they should have intervened early on and told the spotter that he didn't know what the hell he was doing or at least made a polite protested that they disagreed with what he was doing. i heard nothing of the sort in the audio feed.

on a side note, i'd like to point out to all the naysayers of factory roll bars that this video clearly shows that they hold up a lot better than some would suggest.

 

Heather and I went up and down the right side of that same obstacle the day of the Easter earthquake with no problems at all. That spotter had her in a bad position from the start and never should have let her begin her decent at the angle she approached it from. There is plenty of room at the top to line your Jeep so you don't have to drop-in off-camber.

It looks like they were all inexperienced off-roaders and never should have attempted an obstacle that difficult to begin with without someone to guide them through.

 

This is the third roll over on Heart Attack Hill I have personally seen or watched a after action video of in the past ten years:
- The first one was a friend of mine in the Jeep in front of me waiting to go down the hill. He was aired down, disconnected and experienced. He went over the edge and dropped down and hit a large rock with his brakes locked. The front wheels hit, bounced up and the rear of the Jeep was carried forward by momentum. When the front wheels hit again they were still locked and the rear wheels were straight up in the air and over he went - end over end. Two revolutions and finally landed on his wheels and skidded to the bottom of the hill - his foot still on the brake and his wheels still locked. The top did not cave in and he sustained many head, neck and shoulder cuts and bruises and his knees took a beating. But, nothing was broken. The Jeep was totalled. He got out by himself and rode out in another Jeep. He did not replace his Jeep and to my knowledge he never set foot in another Jeep, not even for a ride. He did not have a spotter.

- The second incident took place a few years ago when a middle aged woman decided it was her turn to drive the family TJ down Heart Attack Hill. While she had many years in the passenger's seat, she had never driven on a dangerous obstacle. Her roll over was similar in nature to the one on the attached video. She broke her neck and had to be evacuated by helo. I don't remember if she survived. I don't remember if she had a spotter or not, but I don't think it would have made a difference.

- After watching the attached video four times all I can say is, "This one didn't have to happen." It does not look like the tires were aired down and I can't tell if the TJ had QDs or not. And if you watch closely, in the slow motion version, you can see a lot of crap flying around the inside of the cabin when the Jeep is inverted. I seriously question the experience level of the driver. She should never let herself get that far off camber. no matter how bad the spotter was - and she should have turned to the left to get back on camber, but she didn't. The spotter was awful and had no business
trying to spot. I watched his hand movements four times. All I can say is that it looked like modern dance hand gestures. If I saw that through my windshield, I really wouldn't know what he was telling me, and the proof was in the pudding. Spotting is a dead serious business. It is very much like playing chess because you have to predict the results of each recommendation you make in relationship to the next two or three recommendations you will make to stay on line. You also have to know the skill level of the driver, their pucker factor and ability of the driver not to panic when things get tense. The spotter should also know if the spotted Jeep has a manual transmission. Why? Because if the driver has little experience and gets into an extremes situation - they are going to stand on both the brake and clutch at the same time. The result is almost always bad. Why? Because the next thing that will happen is that the driver will take their foot off the clutch and stall the Jeep. A new problem to deal with. I could go on, but I won't.
- During the rescue I think that I would have removed the top and maybe the back seat. It would have made it much easier for the EMTs to work on her and extricate her.
- I hope she has good insurance because that helo ride will cost between $5K and $9.

Fred

 

You put your trust in your spotter, unfortunately, some people have no business spotting people...don't ever think he knew what the line was.