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After my previous reply, I got to wondering about width vs. height.
Mostly I see people talking about tire diameter. I assume that changes ground clearance. For mud I imagine foot print / width would matter more than diameter. If I'm not crawling over stuff, more through it, then does that change tire choice?
How do you pick between what is the reality of driving 100 , 200 miles to get to the trail on a highway, vs. the trail traction and clearance once you get there?
Mostly I see people talking about tire diameter. I assume that changes ground clearance. For mud I imagine foot print / width would matter more than diameter. If I'm not crawling over stuff, more through it, then does that change tire choice?
How do you pick between what is the reality of driving 100 , 200 miles to get to the trail on a highway, vs. the trail traction and clearance once you get there?
The width/ height is a tricky battle. For max gas mileage you'd want skinny tires but then it feels a little flighty on the interstate. The tall tires will allow you to get to the bottom of the mud and 'grab' to get through it. But choices are limited with super skinny tires. I do 32k miles per year so I went 265/70-17 as a good mix of taller than the 225's and also good highway manners. I also had the 15" wheels for a while because tires were cheaper but the tire size I was looking for was limited in options for 15's so I went with the 17's I had in the garage.
Look into the goodyear duratrac or bfg all terrain if you want a good highway/ everyday tire that will also do well out on the light trails. I do substantially more highway so I went with an even more street friendly tire that was cheaper than the two listed above.
#13
"Welcome to the club and the addiction!"
One of the first things I did was order as many free catalogs off the internet as I could from all the major suppliers and then get yourself a good magazine rack in the bathroom or office and start dreaming.
Here are some other ideas:
Keep a Scrapbook of your progress
Track your expenses
Learn from others - This forum is excellent for that
Do your research before you buy
Most of all - Have fun
One of the first things I did was order as many free catalogs off the internet as I could from all the major suppliers and then get yourself a good magazine rack in the bathroom or office and start dreaming.
Here are some other ideas:
Keep a Scrapbook of your progress
Track your expenses
Learn from others - This forum is excellent for that
Do your research before you buy
Most of all - Have fun
Thanks, I'm sure I'll have fun.
Keep the rubber side down!
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#15
I was in your spot a while back and agreed- $1200 to jump wasn't worth it.
The width/ height is a tricky battle. For max gas mileage you'd want skinny tires but then it feels a little flighty on the interstate. The tall tires will allow you to get to the bottom of the mud and 'grab' to get through it. But choices are limited with super skinny tires. I do 32k miles per year so I went 265/70-17 as a good mix of taller than the 225's and also good highway manners. I also had the 15" wheels for a while because tires were cheaper but the tire size I was looking for was limited in options for 15's so I went with the 17's I had in the garage.
Look into the goodyear duratrac or bfg all terrain if you want a good highway/ everyday tire that will also do well out on the light trails. I do substantially more highway so I went with an even more street friendly tire that was cheaper than the two listed above.
The width/ height is a tricky battle. For max gas mileage you'd want skinny tires but then it feels a little flighty on the interstate. The tall tires will allow you to get to the bottom of the mud and 'grab' to get through it. But choices are limited with super skinny tires. I do 32k miles per year so I went 265/70-17 as a good mix of taller than the 225's and also good highway manners. I also had the 15" wheels for a while because tires were cheaper but the tire size I was looking for was limited in options for 15's so I went with the 17's I had in the garage.
Look into the goodyear duratrac or bfg all terrain if you want a good highway/ everyday tire that will also do well out on the light trails. I do substantially more highway so I went with an even more street friendly tire that was cheaper than the two listed above.
Looks like I'll have 16" rims. I not likely going to do a swap at the Jeep dealer. The order is into the factory already, so here come my 16's.
I'm not expecting deep mud, like I see on some online video's, but more than you can take the average family sedan through.
The local club website mentioned 31" tires for "medium trails". At this stage I have no idea what there idea of "medium" is. I thought "trail rated" meant the Rubicon trail, which was "difficult". If a Cherokee Trailhawk is trail rated, and they don't pull the trail rated badge off a Wrangler Sport with the 225/75R16 tires... well it seems a little confusing to a total newbie. I'm getting a sense that all "difficults" don't share the same difficulties. From what I read the Rubicon trail is "difficult". I just found an online site listing a trail near Ottawa Ontario with the surprising name of the Californai Road ( see below), with two stars**, and a description of "at least 12" clearance. Wow - that's more than any stock Jeep or Truck I've ever heard of. If thats a two star, whats the
"Believe it or not, California Road exists. It is found in the Municipality of Lanark Highlands, in Darling Ward, south of White Lake. Although this road is well recognized and publicized on local maps and, it has a long history in the annuals of local settlement, it goes through some very wild Canadian Shield country and is a very rough, unmaintained road, passable only with any vehicle that has at least twelve inches clearance. California Road makes a very good walking trail. "
Seems not everybody believes the twelve inches of clearance. Perhaps I'll go an measure.
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as someone who doesnt think every jeep needs "big" tires, i would still recommend grabbing some rubi take offs. that size wont destroy your performance, even if you have 3:21 gears. they're often pretty good price. and they will be night and day difference off-road then your stock tires. after that it all depends on what you think you might be doing. personally, i like to go camping with the family, so my jeep is pretty basic other then better tires and a few lights. ive seen and owned bone stock jeeps that went really far off-road. you will be amazed at what you can do.
but before you do anything, READ and ASK on this forum. become an expert before you spend the $$$.
but before you do anything, READ and ASK on this forum. become an expert before you spend the $$$.