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Old 11-19-2009 | 04:16 PM
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that's the kind of input that helps us newbies. thanks david. the only reason i ask about using the 9.0rc is because of its light weight. would an option be to use a snatch block and a line extension? example: winch line out 45 feet, attached to an extension through the snatch block and back to the jeep? twice the power? i don';t plan on being stuck that often. if the winch gets used 6 times a year i will be surprised. lets me drive around with half the weight.

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Old 11-19-2009 | 04:36 PM
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example: winch line out 45 feet
I would not do this becuase then you only have 5 feet on the winch.

I still think the 9.5ti is the better winch choice.

The more line you have on the drum the more pulling power you have.

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Old 11-19-2009 | 04:43 PM
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I have an RC 9.0 for sale if you are interested. It was on the Jeep when I bought it. Along with a fab fours front and rear bumper. PM me if interested
Old 11-19-2009 | 09:04 PM
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The small warn winch is a really great product, but I tend to agree with the group here. The drum is just a little too small. Another part to think about is that you need a smaller fairlead also. Does warn make one that fits a standard Jeep bumper fairlead slot?

I like your thinking about weight. I'm continually looking for ways to take stuff off of my Jeep instead of adding to it. I run a Ramsey REP 8.5e. With Synth rope, it's under 60 lbs. Lifetime warranty and about $500 with steel cable. The fairlead needs to be replaced for synth rope though.

BTW, my front bumper is only 27 lbs.
Old 11-19-2009 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Northridge4x4
I would not do this becuase then you only have 5 feet on the winch.

I still think the 9.5ti is the better winch choice.

The more line you have on the drum the more pulling power you have.

David
david, i know that you know your stuff but i have read and heard that the most power was on the first spool of cable on the drum so in turn you would have less cable on the drum.

please correct me if this is wrong because this is what i have thought for a long time.
Old 11-19-2009 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JK Freedom
Are you sure of the weigh?

If you have the money, warn is the best

I would recommend a synth. winch rope
Did you actually read the original post?

Yes, the 9.0RC weighs in at 56 pounds. It's TINY compared to most 9000 pound winches. It comes from the factory with synthetic line...it's not offered with steel line.

Please do the basic research before acting like you understand the issues at hand. Something like looking at this link.

http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/src/9.0Rc.shtml

Originally Posted by Northridge4x4

The more line you have on the drum the more pulling power you have.

David

David, I'm sorry but you have written this down backwards. That won't stop me from continuing to buy from you though

Fewer wraps on the drum = more pulling power and slower line speed

More wraps on the drum = less pulling power and greater line speed.

It's a simple matter of mechanical advantage.

The 9.0RC will pull harder for closer work, as you'll have less line on the drum.



To the OP:


This is a neat idea...but Cdash is right about the length of your extensions. I would get a 50 foot extension - that would give you 100 feet of effective pull. If that's not going to be enough, then pick up an additional 75 footer...net result would be 175 feet of winch line that can be assembled in a variety of combinations. Just understand that every connection between winch lines that has metal in it adds to the danger of your recovery. Yes, synthetic line stretches less...but there is still a bit of stretch.

Also understand that the 9.0RC is built with light weight and compact size as a primary design aim. You're getting a smaller motor and shorter gearing than something like a 9.5ti.

By the way...I own a 9.5ti and am VERY happy with it. You wouldn't go wrong by buying one, especially if you put synthetic line on it. To be honest, just about anything with red "W" on it will probably do the job.

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Old 11-20-2009 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Woods
The small warn winch is a really great product, but I tend to agree with the group here. The drum is just a little too small. Another part to think about is that you need a smaller fairlead also. Does warn make one that fits a standard Jeep bumper fairlead slot?

I like your thinking about weight. I'm continually looking for ways to take stuff off of my Jeep instead of adding to it. I run a Ramsey REP 8.5e. With Synth rope, it's under 60 lbs. Lifetime warranty and about $500 with steel cable. The fairlead needs to be replaced for synth rope though.

BTW, my front bumper is only 27 lbs.
I will take a look at that winch. thank you for the info. i put an order in with you a couple weeks ago for the rear storage bags and tool kit. can;t wait to get those.

as far as bumpers go, it was between yours and the expedition dx. i went with the expedition because of the side wings. not sure i made the right decision but that is what happened :(. i really liked the rock crawler light setup on your bumper. i just didn;t think i needed it or i would have gotten your bumper.

thanks for the help
Old 11-20-2009 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by w squared
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This is a neat idea...but Cdash is right about the length of your extensions. I would get a 50 foot extension - that would give you 100 feet of effective pull. If that's not going to be enough, then pick up an additional 75 footer...net result would be 175 feet of winch line that can be assembled in a variety of combinations. Just understand that every connection between winch lines that has metal in it adds to the danger of your recovery. Yes, synthetic line stretches less...but there is still a bit of stretch.

Also understand that the 9.0RC is built with light weight and compact size as a primary design aim. You're getting a smaller motor and shorter gearing than something like a 9.5ti.

By the way...I own a 9.5ti and am VERY happy with it. You wouldn't go wrong by buying one, especially if you put synthetic line on it. To be honest, just about anything with red "W" on it will probably do the job.
thank you for your insight. i am listening and getting back to what dave at northridge (and you) originally recommended = 9.5Ti. does anyone know what this may weigh in at with synthetic line? i have to do more research now. i wanted to stay with warn because it appears to be the "best" but we;ll see ? the ramsey 8.5e that woods recommneded sounds nice and cheaper $.

thanks again
Old 11-20-2009 | 05:55 AM
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Does it use the standard bolt pattern being that small, I would look into that also!
Old 11-20-2009 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ccwbrd
Does it use the standard bolt pattern being that small, I would look into that also!
no. i think it is different. expedition one said i would have to drill new holes to get it to work.



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