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Old 11-19-2009 | 12:38 PM
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i did some searching and can;t find opinion on this?

what are the negatives of using a warn 9.0rc winch and having a 125' extnsion line in the jeep? the winch is light at 54lbs and seems pretty fast. for the times you need a longer winch line than the standard 50', i can use an extension piece? what do you guys think of this setup, positive and negative? it looks like you can get this winch delivered at the moment for 1100 bucks with the current warn rebate.

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Old 11-19-2009 | 01:44 PM
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Are you sure of the weigh?

If you have the money, warn is the best

I would recommend a synth. winch rope
Old 11-19-2009 | 01:51 PM
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i think the weight is accurate. it is one of the rock crawler type winches that are light and have synthetic line installed on them. an expedition one basic dx bumper and this winch would weigh less than the front bumpers of most manufacturers. why carry an extra 100 pounds around. i can;t seem to find anything negative about this kind of setup except the short line length (that i figure an extension piece will do when needed)? i am a newbie to winches so i am looking for advice?

Old 11-19-2009 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pjk
i think the weight is accurate. it is one of the rock crawler type winches that are light and have synthetic line installed on them. an expedition one basic dx bumper and this winch would weigh less than the front bumpers of most manufacturers. why carry an extra 100 pounds around. i can;t seem to find anything negative about this kind of setup except the short line length (that i figure an extension piece will do when needed)? i am a newbie to winches so i am looking for advice?

Are you going to latch the 2 cables together? Will there be enough room on the winch to fit all that line?
Old 11-19-2009 | 02:07 PM
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the warn 9.0rc only holds 50' of synthetic cable. that is the downside i see with this winch. if i use and extension, i would unspool the 50' and winch back 50 feet. then start over if i need to winch more than 50 feet. the spool will not handle more than 50 feet at a time. i can see needing more than 50' of line when trying to locate an acceptable anchoring point, however, how often do you really need more than 50' of winching to get unstuck?
Old 11-19-2009 | 03:02 PM
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Are you going to latch the 2 cables together? Will there be enough room on the winch to fit all that line?
I don't think so...
Old 11-19-2009 | 03:09 PM
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I think the downside is having to carry extra line in the Jeep.

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Old 11-19-2009 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pjk
i think the weight is accurate. it is one of the rock crawler type winches that are light and have synthetic line installed on them. an expedition one basic dx bumper and this winch would weigh less than the front bumpers of most manufacturers. why carry an extra 100 pounds around. i can;t seem to find anything negative about this kind of setup except the short line length (that i figure an extension piece will do when needed)? i am a newbie to winches so i am looking for advice?

I am all over this, except the $1100 part.......

I think the same way as you. Most winches I see (mostly mud holes here in Michigan) are 30' to 40' max off the spool and maybe a 10' to 20' pull. I have the same idea for my wish list, just need the $$. Personally I'd want to install it with the stock front bumper. Keep the weight down!!

That winch is fast.

I would suggest a 50' extension. A 100' extension by itself would leave you stranded in the middle since the extension is longer than the pull length. But also remember - you aren't going to winch 50' with a 50' line, it's more like 45' since you have to keep at least a few wraps on the drum.

The comment you are likely to get is that connecting an extension and a winch line will leave you with a dangling shackle/hook in the middle of all that tension. I know synthetics are supposed to go limp when broken and fall to the ground instead of recoiling, I am not sure what two lines connected together with a heavy shackle or hook in the middle would do. If only 1 line breaks, does the other recoil? I am sure a heavy blanket or coat over it would mitigate the risk, but I don't know......

If you care to buy the winch and send it to me I will test it out for you and let you know how it works!!
Old 11-19-2009 | 03:32 PM
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Why all that hassle? Get the Superwinch Epi9.0S and call it a day. You'll have your synthetic line, 100'+, 9k pull, and one GREAT winch for $300 less that is DEFINITELY comparable to Warn.
Old 11-19-2009 | 03:42 PM
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Here is the other issue.

Specs for the 9.0RC
PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATIONS
Line Pull
Lbs.(Kgs.) Line Speed
FT./min(M/min.) Motor
Current Pull by layer
layer/Lbs(Kgs.)
0 42 (12.8) 80 amps 1/9000 (4082)
2000 16 (4.88) 200 amps 2/7280 (3302)
4000 11.9 (3.63) 285 amps 3/6670 (3026)
6000 9.79 (2.98) 350 amps 4/6230 (2826)
8000 8.01 (2.44) 435 amps
9000 6.4 (1.94) 465 amps

Specs for the 9.5ti

Line Pull
Lbs.(Kgs.) Line Speed
FT./min(M/min.) Motor
Current Pull by layer
layer/Lbs(Kgs.)
0 62(18.9) 47 amps 1/9500(4313)
2000(910) 16.3(4.97) 160 amps 2/8650(3927)
4000(1810) 11.8(3.60) 230 amps 3/7920(3595)
6000(2720) 9.31(2.84) 305 amps 4/7400(3359)
8000(3630) 7.59(2.31) 370 amps 5/6940(3150)
9500(4310) 6.67(2.03) 425 amps


So really what this is saying is if you pull the 9.0rc out you will only be out about 40' and only being able to pull about 6K pounds.

At 40' out with the 9.5ti you still have approx 8k pounds of pulling power.

The 9.0RC really is for really short pulls even with a extension it does not make sense to me.

David



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