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Why are my tires chopped???

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Old 05-12-2013 | 08:18 AM
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Simple response.

Alignment is out. If no worn components, its just OUT. Camper/Caster causing chopping.

All honesty. That's why I DO NOT rotate tires front to rear. EVER.
I only swap left to right so only two tires wear out at the same time. Much less expensive replacing 2 at a time. Unless u are changing brand or type, then u wouldn't match. Anyway.......

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Old 05-12-2013 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GoinCamando
Simple response.

Alignment is out. If no worn components, its just OUT. Camper/Caster causing chopping.

All honesty. That's why I DO NOT rotate tires front to rear. EVER.
I only swap left to right so only two tires wear out at the same time. Much less expensive replacing 2 at a time. Unless u are changing brand or type, then u wouldn't match. Anyway.......

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Wow. Interesting concept. Foregoing rotating tires is like heresy on this forum but I do understand the concept and can respect that.

Anyway, you're probably right it's the alignment. I'll check the numbers, get it done, and rotate front to rears.
Old 05-12-2013 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by GoinCamando
Simple response.

Alignment is out. If no worn components, its just OUT. Camper/Caster causing chopping.

All honesty. That's why I DO NOT rotate tires front to rear. EVER.
I only swap left to right so only two tires wear out at the same time. Much less expensive replacing 2 at a time. Unless u are changing brand or type, then u wouldn't match. Anyway.......

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That's interesting considering if the tire manufacturers give a mileage warranty and you don't rotate the warranty is void. I would think if it caused faster were down they wouldn't have you do it. Oh and my boss does it on our one ton duallies the way you are saying and we can't get more than 25-30k out of em but on my old dually I rotated front to back and got 63k outta them so if my math is correct you buy 50% more tires that way. Every 30 two front and rear at 60. That's 6 tires by 60k

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Old 05-12-2013 | 09:26 AM
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FYI, this has been discussed in prior threads. Seems over the years some MT tires do it worse than others. This happened to me, exactly as you described. I have first person experience and while it could be BJs, alignment issues, for me it was pure rotation. I had to go to 3k rotation schedule with the stock Rubi MTs. With my current, wider/taller BFGs I am back to a 5k mile rotation schedule.

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Old 05-12-2013 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by oriffx
Thanks for great replies. I thought I did a pretty good job rotating the tires. I did them with every oil change, about every 5K miles.

My lift is the 2.5 coil lift from Teraflex. I put in Bilstein 5100 shocks at the time of the lift about two years ago. My JKU IS a 2010 and the tires have about 30K on them with about 10/32nd tread left. I also installed the JKS front adj trackbar at the time of the lift.

Maybe what I'll do is rotate tires again. Put front in rears and vice versa. Ask them to check the alignment and go from there. Don't know what the alignment numbers. I'll tell them to check out the ball joints.

BTW...dumb question coming...what's the easiest way to check if the shocks are bad??

Thanks for all the great advice.
I had the same issue with my 2010 JKU original KM tires. I lower the tire pressure to 30 lbs and BALANCE the tires.
After 8000 miles the tires are all wearing evenly now.
Old 05-12-2013 | 10:02 AM
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Rotate ur tires more often.... Search you will find this happens if you don't rotate more often. Happened to my 2011.
Old 05-12-2013 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by CerOf
FYI, this has been discussed in prior threads. Seems over the years some MT tires do it worse than others. This happened to me, exactly as you described. I have first person experience and while it could be BJs, alignment issues, for me it was pure rotation. I had to go to 3k rotation schedule with the stock Rubi MTs. With my current, wider/taller BFGs I am back to a 5k mile rotation schedule.

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Ur point with the warranty is correct. However, not my point. The front alignment is what causes tire wear the most. Rotating them around frequently allows them all to wear out more evenly and obviously would take longer to need replacement.
Again, like I stated, I don't like financing tires. So the rear ones last forever and I replace the fronts as needed. Swap the old rears to the front new to rear then when the fronts are old and worn again I can afford another pair by then.
Think about it, the warranty is only good for length of life dependent on rubber itself not steering issues. That's why they recommend rotating so often, so u don't really notice the wear and it takes a hell if allot longer before they are all trashed.

Rotating is not a bad thing. Only rough on the wallet.
Old 05-12-2013 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GoinCamando
Simple response.

Alignment is out. If no worn components, its just OUT. Camper/Caster causing chopping.

All honesty. That's why I DO NOT rotate tires front to rear. EVER.
I only swap left to right so only two tires wear out at the same time. Much less expensive replacing 2 at a time. Unless u are changing brand or type, then u wouldn't match. Anyway.......

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With aggressive off road tires a vehicle all within spec will still cause this if the tires arent rotated frequently enough. You are giving very bad advice. What works for street tires doesnt work for agressive AT's and especially MT's. You really should read up more before giving advice thats going to cost someone more money in the long run. Not only will the tires accelerate in wear with your method but the drivability throughout the life of the tire will be negativley effected. Im not saying he shouldnt have his alignment checked but not rotating is just wrong.
Old 05-12-2013 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob 12B1P

With aggressive off road tires a vehicle all within spec will still cause this if the tires arent rotated frequently enough. You are giving very bad advice. What works for street tires doesnt work for agressive AT's and especially MT's. You really should read up more before giving advice thats going to cost someone more money in the long run. Not only will the tires accelerate in wear with your method but the drivability throughout the life of the tire will be negativley effected. Im not saying he shouldnt have his alignment checked but not rotating is just wrong.
Whatever you say dude. I'm speaking from experience and as mechanic. Use your own advice. What works for one doesn't work for others. I speak from what works for me. On or off. If you don't like the advice MOVE ON.
You are NOT helping anyone by criticizing either.
That's why this is an open Forum. One will read many opinions and make THEIR OWN DECISION.
Just like changing channels. "U don't like what's on? Change........"
Old 05-12-2013 | 03:21 PM
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I saw this coming but it's a good thing. We can all learn here. Anyway, checking alignment is a good thing. Most shops do an alignment check for free. If its off then I'll fix it. Simple as that. And swap the front/rears.

I just wasn't sure about the whole "bad shocks, faulty struts, bent C's, crappy ball joint suspension issues" thing.

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