Who makes the best sleeves and gussets
09-13-2009, 09:04 AM
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The C2 gussets come in a set of four:
top and bottom of the C for both drivers and passengers side.....4 pieces total.
I just had ORE install the C gussets, rock stars, sleeves and CA skids......it looks sweet and the piece of mind of having the extra strength is unmatched...especially with HEAVY 37's
top and bottom of the C for both drivers and passengers side.....4 pieces total.
I just had ORE install the C gussets, rock stars, sleeves and CA skids......it looks sweet and the piece of mind of having the extra strength is unmatched...especially with HEAVY 37's
09-13-2009, 09:10 AM
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external sleeves?
I know I am back to back posting........but.........
What would be the advantages of having the internal and external?
Current setup:
Front Axle:
Rubicon d44
5.13's
37x13.5's
ORE C gussets, sleeves, CA skids, JKS track bar brace
Where is the point at which the axle tube is stong enough you don't have to worry?
When would you need to start looking at axle shaft upgrades?
Possibly upgrade to D60's?
What would be the advantages of having the internal and external?
Current setup:
Front Axle:
Rubicon d44
5.13's
37x13.5's
ORE C gussets, sleeves, CA skids, JKS track bar brace
Where is the point at which the axle tube is stong enough you don't have to worry?
When would you need to start looking at axle shaft upgrades?
Possibly upgrade to D60's?
09-13-2009, 11:05 AM
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I know I am back to back posting........but.........
What would be the advantages of having the internal and external?
Current setup:
Front Axle:
Rubicon d44
5.13's
37x13.5's
ORE C gussets, sleeves, CA skids, JKS track bar brace
Where is the point at which the axle tube is stong enough you don't have to worry?
When would you need to start looking at axle shaft upgrades?
Possibly upgrade to D60's?
What would be the advantages of having the internal and external?
Current setup:
Front Axle:
Rubicon d44
5.13's
37x13.5's
ORE C gussets, sleeves, CA skids, JKS track bar brace
Where is the point at which the axle tube is stong enough you don't have to worry?
When would you need to start looking at axle shaft upgrades?
Possibly upgrade to D60's?
The internal sleeves are smaller in diameter than the stock tubes so internal sleeves only increase the tube strength by about 30%. External sleeves are larger in diameter than stock so they increase tube strength by about 60 - 70%. The combination of internal and external sleeves gives you on the order of 2X the stock tube strength. Combine sleeves with the C Gussets and Control arm skids and the strength of the axle housing is formidable.
The next part of the equation is the strength of the internal axle components. Shafts, carrier, ring and pinion (R&P), etc. Internal components also need strengthening to run larger tires without significant risk of breakage. You can add cromo shafts that are significantly stronger than stock shafts. You can add a new locker/carrier from ARB or others that significantly increase the strength of the carrier. You can heat treat the R&P for some increase in strength as well.
What axle is right for you? For a built up Dana 30 the weak point is the R&P. The small R&P will not stand up well to 37s but should do OK with 35s. A D44 has a larger R&P than a D30 and a built D44 should be able to run 37s. A stock D60 can handle 37s and you could build it up even stronger. It all depends on what tires you want to run and how you off-road.
09-13-2009, 11:16 AM
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We had the Off Road Evolution sleeves, C2 gussets and skids installed on our dana 30.
yeah, i have seen them too but as mentioned, personally don't see any need for the reinforcement. that is, not unless you plan on jumping your jeep. while the tubes are on the small side, they seem to do just fine with 35's and they seem to be holding up well with my 37's. if anything reinforcing your C's is really what you need to do more than anything as that is a proven weak point and they will bend. and, if you're gonna play really hard and with big tires, upgrading to a D60 really is the better way to go as your axle tubes bending might just be the least of your concerns.
09-13-2009, 02:26 PM
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as i have said before, reinforcing your C's is really what you need to do more than anything as that is a proven weak point and they will bend. and, if you're gonna play really hard and with big tires, upgrading to a D60 really is the better way to go as your axle tubes bending will be the least of your concerns. beefing up your axle tubes to with inner and now with crazy overkill outter sleeves won't do squat for the parts of your axle that really matter - things like your axle shafts, u-joints and ring & pinion. trust me, they will all break way before your axle tube starts to bend.
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09-13-2009, 02:26 PM
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yes or at least, you need to take the load off of the coils by lowering your axle down. if you don't, the coils will prevent the gussets from sitting completely flush.
Last edited by wayoflife; 09-13-2009 at 02:33 PM.