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Old 04-25-2015 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by RoysRig
I've had 2 black cars in my life(still have 1). They just always seem to be a giant pain in the ass. Hot in summer, always dirty looking, always shows the swirl marks when clean, rock chips are more noticeable, and people seem to cut you off more(think it's because they just don't seem to see you).

Great for show cars, but just not a color for me.
I agree with every word.
Old 04-25-2015 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Runewolf1973
..... I'm starting to wonder if the whole hotter in summer thing is a myth. Personally, I don't find that the exterior paint color makes any lick of a difference. If it does then it's negligable.
Obviously, you never entered a black vehicle that was parked under direct sun for a while on a hot day (30~45C, 86~115F), and compared it to a white one. There's a big difference.
Black absorbs most of the heat, while the brighter a color is, the more it reflects the heat.
Old 04-25-2015 | 06:01 AM
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If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. I live in FL and 4 out of my 5 of my vehicles are black. I don't mind the extra maintenance to get the color I like. But I must admit, Jeeps are so damn cool that they look great in any color (except one I hate but won't mention it) due to all the accents and accessories.
Old 04-25-2015 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Runewolf1973
Ever hear of this thing called AC? It's amazing the gadgets we have nowadays that make things like the color of the vehicle you drive in hot weather conditions irrelevant. BTW, we don't live in igloos up here in Canada. Just want to make that clear.
Black may be OK for your climate, not for hot regions.
I'm not sure you can even imagine how it's like to enter a Jeep in which the temp' is 158F...
You can't enter the Jeep. First, you have to open the doors and wait for a while. Then, you drive for a while with open windows. Only then, you turn the AC on. Turning it on earlier does nothing.
Then, after driving for an hour with the AC on, at highway speeds, try touching the non-insulated black top... it's HOT. Even a white top will be pretty warm.

If the sun is on you through the window, the cold air blowing at you helps, but not much.

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Old 04-25-2015 | 06:34 AM
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I don't think anyone should live where it's 158F.
Old 04-25-2015 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GJeep
Black may be OK for your climate, not for hot regions.
I'm not sure you can even imagine how it's like to enter a Jeep in which the temp' is 158F...
You can't enter the Jeep. First, you have to open the doors and wait for a while. Then, you drive for a while with open windows. Only then, you turn the AC on. Turning it on earlier does nothing.
Then, after driving for an hour with the AC on, at highway speeds, try touching the non-insulated black top... it's HOT. Even a white top will be pretty warm.

If the sun is on you through the window, the cold air blowing at you helps, but not much.
Well the point is I never claimed to be an expert on it and I was just giving my opinion which is what the OP asked. Obviously there are plenty of people who still drive black vehicles in hotter climates. Some people it doesn't seem to bother as much as others. It can get equally hot in a vehicle even up here which is parked in the direct sun which is why they still fine people for leaving their dogs in the car on a hot day with the windows rolled up. Those are extreme conditions for anywhere, but when you get the vehicle rolling and the windows down and the AC going the white car versus black car thing becomes not a such a big deal. I suspect the majority of the heat generated in a vehicle is due to the glass and not the paint job.

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Old 04-25-2015 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Runewolf1973
Well the point is I never claimed to be an expert on it and I was just giving my opinion which is what the OP asked. Obviously there are plenty of people who still drive black vehicles in hotter climates. Some people it doesn't seem to bother as much as others. It can get equally hot in a vehicle even up here which is parked in the direct sun which is why they still fine people for leaving their dogs in the car on a hot day with the windows rolled up. Those are extreme conditions for anywhere, but when you get the vehicle rolling and the windows down and the AC going the white car versus black car thing becomes not a such a big deal. I suspect the majority of the heat generated in a vehicle is due to the glass and not the paint job.
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Old 04-25-2015 | 08:59 AM
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I came across a JKU with a custom matte black paint scheme... it looked really sweet... wish I could have talked to the guy about it, I know the inherent issues with a matte paint on a car... best looking rig I've seen to date...
Old 04-25-2015 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 14Sport
I don't think anyone should live where it's 158F.
True.
But that's what it gets to, when a closed vehicle is parked for hours in the sun, when the ambient temp' (in the shade) is 40+C (104+F).
After about an hour or two, I can fry an egg on the (white) hood in seconds, not to mention a black hood.
A closed vehicle with windows works like a transparent greenhouse, in which the temp' is much higher than outside. Add massive heat absorption of a black color, and that's what you get inside the Jeep.
After being parked in Eilat (extreme desert) during the summer, for instance, for some hours in the sun, I can't get into my white Jeep, I have to first air it for some time. Then, I can cross the small city to the other side, and the AC just begins doing something.
Sun shades don't help much, because the air between the glass window and the sunshade becomes extremely hot, and this heat spreads inside.
Old 04-25-2015 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GJeep
I can fry an egg on the (white) hood in seconds...
Black hoods are for steaks.

When you look at a color, you see that color because it is the only color in the spectrum NOT absorbed by the object. The rest of the colors are absorbed. Black absorbs all color so it is essentially the lack of color while white absorbs no color. It reflects them all which is how a prism works when bending rays into separate colors, all those colors are already contained in the light.



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