Very confused in MA. (Gear related) did I call a dumb shop?
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Not sure where in Mass you are from but there's a place in NH called "Steves jeep country" its a small/med shop that does all of this on a regular basis. They are good guys and have experience. At the very least they can give you advice on everything. Not sure on prices being you have all your own stuff but worth the call. I have an 08 with 3:73 and am jumping to 4:88 (on 35's). The 5:13 would prob be a safe jump also but I have driven on both and think the 4:88 are better for the on-road aspect. I was told I would need a new front carrier also for the gears to work. I was quoted $1900 for all parts and labour. Best I can find in this area (WITH experience and warranty)
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Sounds like the shop that suggested new axle and turbo is either run be inexperienced kids or someone who enjoys ripping people off.
Find a shop that does re-gearing for Jeeps as a normal part of their business. After a collision, my insurance company had my Jeep repairs at their collision repair shop which was owned by a Cadillac dealership. They did an excellent job on the bodywork. They replaced the axle housing but reused the gears and axles. Apparently they had no clue how to setup a crush sleeve because after that when I rotated the front drive shaft the pinion moved in and out. Not only did they not setup the differential correctly, they guaranteed the gears would fail in short order. There is no shop I trust near me so from now on I do all drive train work myself. Who will take more time to make sure it's done right than I would?
The 5.13s will be fine in you D30. Since you have the 3.73 carrier, that can stay... or you can upgrade to lockers which makes re-gear install even easier.
The weakest link with 37s will be the C's. Even if you don't hard-core off-road, the weight and especially the angular momentum created by those tires on road will eventually bend your C's. You definitely want to truss. Trusses are cheap and having an experienced shop doing them during the re-gear should be cheaper than doing them later (unless you can weld them yourself).
With 37's extra radius you might think about better brakes. The extra torque from the longer lever will require more force to stop.
During re-gear the axles will be out. If you want to sleeve eventually, this is the perfect time to get it done for minimal extra labor cost.
BTW - I have a 2010 JKU Sahara Auto with 3.73s original and going 4.88. 35's is as large as I'll ever go.
Find a shop that does re-gearing for Jeeps as a normal part of their business. After a collision, my insurance company had my Jeep repairs at their collision repair shop which was owned by a Cadillac dealership. They did an excellent job on the bodywork. They replaced the axle housing but reused the gears and axles. Apparently they had no clue how to setup a crush sleeve because after that when I rotated the front drive shaft the pinion moved in and out. Not only did they not setup the differential correctly, they guaranteed the gears would fail in short order. There is no shop I trust near me so from now on I do all drive train work myself. Who will take more time to make sure it's done right than I would?
The 5.13s will be fine in you D30. Since you have the 3.73 carrier, that can stay... or you can upgrade to lockers which makes re-gear install even easier.
The weakest link with 37s will be the C's. Even if you don't hard-core off-road, the weight and especially the angular momentum created by those tires on road will eventually bend your C's. You definitely want to truss. Trusses are cheap and having an experienced shop doing them during the re-gear should be cheaper than doing them later (unless you can weld them yourself).
With 37's extra radius you might think about better brakes. The extra torque from the longer lever will require more force to stop.
During re-gear the axles will be out. If you want to sleeve eventually, this is the perfect time to get it done for minimal extra labor cost.
BTW - I have a 2010 JKU Sahara Auto with 3.73s original and going 4.88. 35's is as large as I'll ever go.
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To be honest, both of you are kind of acting that way. Karls in his text that you quoted and elitist attitude, and you in your response. I agree with you that your jeep is yours and that nobody else can tell you how to set it up, but Karls is correct that a truss is the better route for you. Both of you should step back and recognize the reality of the situation.
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To be honest, both of you are kind of acting that way. Karls in his text that you quoted and elitist attitude, and you in your response. I agree with you that your jeep is yours and that nobody else can tell you how to set it up, but Karls is correct that a truss is the better route for you. Both of you should step back and recognize the reality of the situation.
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To be honest, both of you are kind of acting that way. Karls in his text that you quoted and elitist attitude, and you in your response. I agree with you that your jeep is yours and that nobody else can tell you how to set it up, but Karls is correct that a truss is the better route for you. Both of you should step back and recognize the reality of the situation.
Reality- it's a mall crawler on 37's. People run 37's on d30's without any reinforcement, so he's actually ok. It's just wise to put money into a truss and gussets to strengthen the axle for when he does go off road.
My apologies for being a troll, asshole, douche, "bad name to jeepers", and general scum of the earth.
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I'd like to state that I never intended any insult behind any statements I have made. I was merely trying to smooth troubled waters. Karls is a good source of information, as others have stated, and he knows it. The OP definitely overreacted in this case. Serves me right for attempting diplomacy on the internet.
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My $0.02. I'm also down on the Cape and I've used Waynes Offroad in Barnstable for all of my lifted rigs/Jeeps. He's always done great work and knows his shit around a Jeep.
I've also heard Dr. Wheels and Platinum auto in yarmouth do good work as well. It may suite you well to make the hour drive down here and get it done right the first time.
Hope I didn't offend anyone? Ha
I've also heard Dr. Wheels and Platinum auto in yarmouth do good work as well. It may suite you well to make the hour drive down here and get it done right the first time.
Hope I didn't offend anyone? Ha