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Unless price uplifts or shipping costs are high in Germany, $10K should provide you enough funds to allow you a great start on modifying your rig (with the exception of an engine swap).
Many of us have to do it incrementally.
If you want to build a capable rig for mud terrain, it probably isn't as expensive as an equivalent vehicle for rock crawling, but I may be wrong. There are many others here that are much more qualified to answer that question.
What is the list price for JK's in Germany?
Many of us have to do it incrementally.
If you want to build a capable rig for mud terrain, it probably isn't as expensive as an equivalent vehicle for rock crawling, but I may be wrong. There are many others here that are much more qualified to answer that question.
What is the list price for JK's in Germany?
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I'm with Conagher on this one.
I wheel with people that run CJ's, YJ's, TJ's, XJ's, ZJ's, WJ's, JK's...you get the picture. I see a lot of folks running a lot of rigs. There are people who are out all the time...and some guys that show up once in a blue moon and get towed off the trail at least half the time. Those are the same guys that are always looking to "fit" the biggest possible tires and get the most possible lift.
You could certainly stick 37's onto your JK with a $10K budget...but will you be able to do it right for that price? You don't want to be the guy that has a rig that looks great on the street but can't afford to wheel it because something breaks every time he sees rocks
Or would you rather put 35's on and have a solid, well planned, reliable rig?
I'd suggest:
-Front and rear bumpers, tire carrier, a winch, and basic recovery gear
-Rock rails and maybe an evap skid plate
-35X12.5" MT's and new wheels (or spacers)
-Reprogrammer to re-flash your TPMS and speedo
-A 3 inch (give or take) lift. You probably do NOT want to cheap out on suspension components. You don't need a top-of-the-line long arm kit with coilovers...but if you wheel, a 2" spacer lift and a 1" body lift are NOT going to perform like a good quality 3" coil lift
-Build up your front axle. A Dana 30 can handle 35's with a bit of help...as long as you don't wheel like an animal
-Sleeves
-Cromoly shafts
-Gusset your C's
-Rear axle truss
-Look at re-gearing, especially if you have an auto transmission. Be forewarned, there is lots of debate about re-gearing with 35's.
-Look at new driveshafts, based on what type of tranny you have, 2 door or 4 door, and how much lift you end up with.
By the time you work your way down this list, you'll probably have gotten through most if not all of your budget. If you DO have money left over, things that I've found to be worthwhile additions on the trail:
-Neoprene seat covers
-Good quality CB
-Synthetic winch line
-Air system (compressor or CO2)
-Grab handles (these are a MUST if you date short girls )
-Bedliner on the interior of the tub
-Axe, shovel, fire extinguisher, first aid kit
-Tools and spares (u-joints, belts, fluids) and a way to store everything
-Hi-lift jack
Most importantly - Stay safe while you're in the sandbox, and thank you for your service.
I wheel with people that run CJ's, YJ's, TJ's, XJ's, ZJ's, WJ's, JK's...you get the picture. I see a lot of folks running a lot of rigs. There are people who are out all the time...and some guys that show up once in a blue moon and get towed off the trail at least half the time. Those are the same guys that are always looking to "fit" the biggest possible tires and get the most possible lift.
You could certainly stick 37's onto your JK with a $10K budget...but will you be able to do it right for that price? You don't want to be the guy that has a rig that looks great on the street but can't afford to wheel it because something breaks every time he sees rocks
Or would you rather put 35's on and have a solid, well planned, reliable rig?
I'd suggest:
-Front and rear bumpers, tire carrier, a winch, and basic recovery gear
-Rock rails and maybe an evap skid plate
-35X12.5" MT's and new wheels (or spacers)
-Reprogrammer to re-flash your TPMS and speedo
-A 3 inch (give or take) lift. You probably do NOT want to cheap out on suspension components. You don't need a top-of-the-line long arm kit with coilovers...but if you wheel, a 2" spacer lift and a 1" body lift are NOT going to perform like a good quality 3" coil lift
-Build up your front axle. A Dana 30 can handle 35's with a bit of help...as long as you don't wheel like an animal
-Sleeves
-Cromoly shafts
-Gusset your C's
-Rear axle truss
-Look at re-gearing, especially if you have an auto transmission. Be forewarned, there is lots of debate about re-gearing with 35's.
-Look at new driveshafts, based on what type of tranny you have, 2 door or 4 door, and how much lift you end up with.
By the time you work your way down this list, you'll probably have gotten through most if not all of your budget. If you DO have money left over, things that I've found to be worthwhile additions on the trail:
-Neoprene seat covers
-Good quality CB
-Synthetic winch line
-Air system (compressor or CO2)
-Grab handles (these are a MUST if you date short girls )
-Bedliner on the interior of the tub
-Axe, shovel, fire extinguisher, first aid kit
-Tools and spares (u-joints, belts, fluids) and a way to store everything
-Hi-lift jack
Most importantly - Stay safe while you're in the sandbox, and thank you for your service.
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-A 3 inch (give or take) lift. You probably do NOT want to cheap out on suspension components. You don't need a top-of-the-line long arm kit with coilovers...but if you wheel, a 2" spacer lift and a 1" body lift are NOT going to perform like a good quality 3" coil lift
When I did my lift, I opted for the "done right" 3" coil lift. Drive shafts and a full accruement of control arms. What my budget didn't allow for at the time was bumpers, tire carrier and sliders. I would gladly give up my additional .5-1" of spring travel to have those now and the cost difference would have paid for it all.
While $10k is a fair amount of money to have available for a project It's still going to leave some wants unchecked. East Coast trails of mud and trees make rails, a winch, axle strengthening, bumpers and ground clearance a necessity and then you pick and choose the rest. Fender chops/replacements, and/or a 1" body lift aren't necessarily compromises with the tire clearance they bring and lower COG they bring, you just need to line up your priorities. That is far different than the compromises of a 2.5" budget boost.
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hey man, that means a lot. it's good to hear that there are people out there that support what we're doing for our country. can't wait to get back and hit the trails.
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@ Larzpdot a warm welcome here in Germany special in Rheinland Pfalz where is your station
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I'm stationed on Spangdahlem Air Base. Thanks for the welcome
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I'm stationed on Spangdahlem Air Base. Thanks for the welcome
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Oh that´s not so far from this Off Road Spot http://www.nuerburgring.de/en/feel/o...d-driving.html
I live 20Km away from Rammstein Air Base maybe 160 Km from Spangdahlem
I live 20Km away from Rammstein Air Base maybe 160 Km from Spangdahlem