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Thoughts on these PR44 set ups

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Old 12-03-2015 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kjeeper10
Where are all the DT failures ? Ive see 1 maybe 2 .
And how many people on forums have those ball joints? I've seen at least five failures. Statistically extrapolating.

If they are superior, tell me why? What makes them worth $600? And you can't say because they say Dynatrac or everyone at WOL likes them.

Just like the UD60s. Why is a full float rear $4k and Dynatrac charges over $7k? Common sense and basic axle knowledge will tell you that the cost of a rear axle is significantly lower than a front, yet the PR60 front and rear are darn close in price.

From the company that sells $5k replacement axles comes overpriced ball joints. It gets better though. When your Synergy joints go, Synergy is out the cost of replacing them. When the Dynatracs go, they sell you a kit for $130. How about that Black Friday deal?! Free upgrade to a revenue generating product from Dynatrac. Dynatrac is smart, I give them credit. Like tech companies, they realized the margin is in maintenance revenue.
Old 12-03-2015 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SoK66
Doesn't seem true. I ran the Dynatracs for 40k miles in my original Rubi housing with 37s and no issues. The housings under a friend's built XJ now, also with 36s they're still doing fine. A few premature Synergy failures noted.
I know more people who ran stock ball joints longer. What's your point?
Old 12-03-2015 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
When your Synergy joints go, Synergy is out the cost of replacing them.
Only for the first year.
Old 12-03-2015 | 06:22 PM
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Just watch your lowers. I thought my Synergy BJ were still good at 40,000 klm until i did a closer inspection. Lowers were shot. My original OEM balljoints lasted over 100,000klm.
Old 12-03-2015 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
What makes them worth $600? And you can't say because they say Dynatrac or everyone at WOL likes them.

Just like the UD60s. Why is a full float rear $4k and Dynatrac charges over $7k? Common sense and basic axle knowledge will tell you that the cost of a rear axle is significantly lower than a front, yet the PR60 front and rear are darn close in price.

From the company that sells $5k replacement axles comes overpriced ball joints. It gets better though. When your Synergy joints go, Synergy is out the cost of replacing them. When the Dynatracs go, they sell you a kit for $130. How about that Black Friday deal?! Free upgrade to a revenue generating product from Dynatrac. Dynatrac is smart, I give them credit. Like tech companies, they realized the margin is in maintenance revenue.

The fact they are in Cali has something to do with the high prices as well.
Old 12-03-2015 | 07:21 PM
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As one of those who did a PR44 setup (RCV, DT BJs, ARB and 5.13 - which matched the 5.13 regearing I did in the rear 44 - which also has RCV), and Reid knuckles, I am very interested in following this discussion.

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Old 12-03-2015 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
And how many people on forums have those ball joints? I've seen at least five failures. Statistically extrapolating. If they are superior, tell me why? What makes them worth $600? And you can't say because they say Dynatrac or everyone at WOL likes them. Just like the UD60s. Why is a full float rear $4k and Dynatrac charges over $7k? Common sense and basic axle knowledge will tell you that the cost of a rear axle is significantly lower than a front, yet the PR60 front and rear are darn close in price. From the company that sells $5k replacement axles comes overpriced ball joints. It gets better though. When your Synergy joints go, Synergy is out the cost of replacing them. When the Dynatracs go, they sell you a kit for $130. How about that Black Friday deal?! Free upgrade to a revenue generating product from Dynatrac. Dynatrac is smart, I give them credit. Like tech companies, they realized the margin is in maintenance revenue.
Because everybody at WAL says so
Old 12-03-2015 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jtphoto JK
Just watch your lowers. I thought my Synergy BJ were still good at 40,000 klm until i did a closer inspection. Lowers were shot. My original OEM balljoints lasted over 100,000klm.
My Synergy lowers were way to loose considering my JK is a driveway queen.
Old 12-03-2015 | 08:08 PM
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I did a pr44 housing 4 years ago when my factory rubicon 44 snapped in two. I bought only the housing and ran all the factory internals because that's all the cash i had. I did get suckered into the dynatrac ball joints. They seemed smart at the time. Chock mine onto the list of failures, after a year and a half and a 15,000 miles. Then I called for rebuild parts and none were available. Hmm. I spent way too much on them and they can't be rebuilt? Luckily their customer service manned up and sent me all new one's. I have 40,000 total miles on the pro rock. I now have chromoly shafts and have zero complaints other then the ball joints. At the time the pr44 wasn't too expensive as an empty housing and it worked for me.
Old 12-03-2015 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Invest2m4
I know more people who ran stock ball joints longer. What's your point?
The point is you're trying to condemn a couple manufacturers but you haven't shown much in the way of evidence. Stock joints suck, period, well documented source of DW, etc. lot of misinformation in this thread


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