DJ1

Lmfao...

DJ1

No offense taken. Just trying to put all options on the table so Jeepers can make better & more knowledgeable decisions. In the end, people are going to buy what they are going to buy....

MetalCloak was at the top of my list because I wanted to stick with rubber bushings on both ends. The J-axis I felt allowed for better flex without having to compromise the weak axle control arm brackets.


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Chuck-The-Ripper

Depends on how hydrated I am and the group I'm with but that's not too far off! Mine are mainly more hill climb based though lol.

Mike H.

Correct, which is the only time the 360* design of the JKS arm comes into play as well.

Right, that is exactly what a track bar is designed to do.

Again, that is what this part is designed to do. If you are doing any serious wheeling, with larger than stock tires, then address this when you address your steering. That is the reason why there are more robust aftermarket frame side track bar mounts on the market.

Now you want to rely on those flimsy control arm brackets (see first quote)? Or are you just trying to convince yourself? Again, track bars purpose is to do exactly what you are now alluding to as a problem. Only way a control arm can contribute to this is when the design incorporates triangulated 4 links (upper arms installed in a “V” pattern to control the axle location in its side to side movement). Otherwise you cannot rely on a bushing in a control arm to perform this task. Again, that is why the design uses track bars.

Still trying to convince yourself?
Wait a minute, you just spent a great deal of time convincing yourself that you want to but more stress on those very mounting points.
I was going to leave this post alone, but it seems that you have fallen victim to one of your own complaints…
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Having said all that, I like the JKS arms, and, a million years ago when they first hit the market I strongly considered them due to the fact that they used OEM bushings while incorporating a means to allow the rotational forced be mitigated. They were the best thing on the market at the time if you wanted rubber bushings.
There are now other options out there with rubber on both ends, that cost less.

kjeeper10

Ooh a e-battle lol

sea bass

Not to get in the middle of the e-battle - but I really don't see how the CA joints help combat lateral movement and relieve stress from from the TB bracket as DJI states .
You ever remove your TB and push the side of your jeep? It moves pretty damn easy. If they are aiding the TB, it's minimal.

decoy5657

Yep. Maybe if you had the stock rubber bushings things would be more stiff just because they don't move as easily as something like a rock krawler ball joint type. Regardless the track bar is meant to hold all of the lateral movement.

Sort of scary that the whole integrity of the jeep is held together with one little bar

DJ1

This quoted comment right here and Mr. Ripper's implosion of his already beefed up rear axle trackbar, which in my view is a result of his failed RK joints allowing too much give thus allowing a larger portion of lateral stress to go to the trackbar mounting points, is all that I need.

Don't need to prove nuffin' to myself here.....proof was already shown.

Think 3 dimensionally, x-y-z axis. X axis offering 360 movement. Y axis limited by shocks, sways, bumpstops. Z axis is where you want the firmer joint. So easy to see that even the GEICO caveman can do it LMFAO.

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Chuck-The-Ripper

If that first photo you? I've always envisioned you a little less bulky. Lol.
I haven't really thought of reason my bracket ripped off. Your reasoning seems very logical though. Hmmmm