TF 2.5 vs OME 2"
#21
Or have it shipped USPS, then there is only 6% tax to be paid which would be around 45$, but alas you do not ship USPS
#22
The problem with USPS is Northridge4x4 wont Guarantee it, so if it gets lost your out 699$ plus shipping, so you really have no choice to go ups with a large purchase like that, I normally do USPS.
#24
My Teraflex gave me this.. 2 5/8 front and 2 1/2 rear... so that isn't much difference...I only paid $250ish.. but if you want to pay $699 for 1/8 of an inch knock yourself out...
With the $ saved compared to OME, I could get adjustable track bars, Sawybar Disconnects, and a skid plate...
With the $ saved compared to OME, I could get adjustable track bars, Sawybar Disconnects, and a skid plate...
#25
Chrysler may have also spent a lot of time engineering the shocks and coils for the JK...so their shocks and coils may also be at least as good as stock, if not identical.
So a kit that just keeps these parts is going to essentially be stock in performance, but with an extended droop range with extensions.
So a kit that just keeps these parts is going to essentially be stock in performance, but with an extended droop range with extensions.
#26
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What you aren't taking into consideration is that Old Man Emu shocks and springs are considered to be some of the highest quality suspension components you can put in your vehicle. ARB engineers work on the minute details of this suspension to give you the best ride on and off road. With a lot of BB lift kits and even 3-4" suspension kits, your JK will ride worse than stock on-road. With the OME kit, your JK will ride much better than stock on-road, and will still be much better off-road as well. Thats where the $699 is justified.
#27
Chrysler may have also spent a lot of time engineering the shocks and coils for the JK...so their shocks and coils may also be at least as good as stock, if not identical.
So a kit that just keeps these parts is going to essentially be stock in performance, but with an extended droop range with extensions.
So a kit that just keeps these parts is going to essentially be stock in performance, but with an extended droop range with extensions.
Also, OME Nitrocharger shocks are really high quality parts. I've seen these bad boys stand up to a lot of abuse offroad and they just don't quit. You can say all you want about the BB kits and how the OME kit isn't worth it, but do yourself a favor and if you ever get the chance, jump in something that has the OME kit installed next time your offroad. You can honestly feel the extra $400 in the suspension.
#28
What you aren't taking into consideration is that Old Man Emu shocks and springs are considered to be some of the highest quality suspension components you can put in your vehicle. ARB engineers work on the minute details of this suspension to give you the best ride on and off road. With a lot of BB lift kits and even 3-4" suspension kits, your JK will ride worse than stock on-road. With the OME kit, your JK will ride much better than stock on-road, and will still be much better off-road as well. Thats where the $699 is justified.
One of the best quality?? I hope for the JK it is. I know for a fact that on the TJ I installed 2 weeks ago I recieved wrong size nuts, bolts and I am not to crazy about the transmission drop spacers thingy's < Wish it was like SKY CRAPPER'S instead
#29
concerning the UPS brokerage fees from USA to Canada. Its a little known fact that you can request to clear your items yourself and eliminate those nasty brokerage fees.
Check out this how-to:
DUTY AND GST (OUCH!)
"Other" shipping companies are still required to charge the same things for Duty and GST. Duty charges vary depending on the type of item you are importing. These are fixed percentages based on the amount and classification of the item. Please note that your government has established the rates applicable - not some shipping company. Duty and GST are not charges the shipping company is making up - they are actually charges from Canada Customs. The shipping companies merely collect this from you because they incurred these charges when they cleared the packages for you.
BROKERAGE FEES TOO... (UGH!)
The only variance in what you will pay to import your goods will be brokerage fees. But likely you will still pay brokerage fees of some level while it may vary from shipping company to shipping company. You may also find it increases based on the quantity and value of goods imported.
So, for all those people who don't understand how to NEVER PAY BROKERAGE FEES AGAIN, this post is special for you. Read on...
POWER OF ATTORNEY
First, shipments to businesses are different than shipments to individuals. When you ship via UPS, UPS has a little thing called Power of Attorney over personal shipments. This gives them the ability to automatically clear your package through customs. They fill and file the paperwork, and charge you a brokerage fee.
For businesses, Power of Attorney is not automatically given to UPS. So, UPS will contact the business asking who the broker for the company is. Large businesses will likely have a brokerage company do the work. OR the business can fill out a form which will give Power of Attorney to UPS for purpose of clearing the package(s) through customs as another option.
THIS IS WHERE IT GETS IMPORTANT
Whether your shipment is a personal thing, or a business thing, you have the option of "Self Clearing". What this means is that you are going to have to do the filling and filing of the paperwork yourself. In the case of a personal shipment, you MUST notify UPS as soon as you have the tracking number that you intend to self clear. In the case of a business, they will contact you - at which point you indicate you are going to self clear.
SELF CLEARING - THE BASICS
Once you have indicated that you are going to self clear...when your package 'arrives' at your shippers warehouse, they will prepare the necessary forms for self-clearing. You must then go to your shippers warehouse, and pick up these forms. You won't even require a pen! The forms are filled out already with the necessary information from the computer. So, off you go...
Once you have the clearing forms, you must then proceed to Canada Customs. (It's just off 32nd Avenue, N.E. - you turn left just before Staples, then right, then right in to the parking lot). This is handy, because pretty much all the shipping companies have warehouses just minutes away from this location.
Keep in mind you must be the person who the shipment is to, or you must be an individual with Power of Attorney over the Company if it is a business shipment.
Once you are inside, you will find a computer - and a book. The book contains all the line codes you may require to understand in order for you to fill out the forms correctly. Kind of like doing your taxes! (Same idea). When you have entered all the information, which will usually include ports of exit and port of entry, method of shipment, costs of goods, classification of goods, importer name, shipping costs, etc. The computer will then print out the finalized forms which will indicate how much you must pay in Duty and GST for your imported goods.
They have agents there who will then have a quick once over of your information, and then you will proceed to pay what you owe at the cash desk.
Once you have paid what you owe, your papers will be stamped "cleared". You return to your shipper with these papers, and they will retrieve your packages. You have just brokered your own packages, and have avoided brokerage fees completely.
SOUNDS LIKE TOO MUCH WORK
Then pay the damn brokerage fee and don't bitch! :rolleyes:
AS PROMISED, CHEATING THE SYSTEM
All goods imported in to Canada have different DUTY rates applied to them depending on the type of good. Even within the automotive realm, duty rates are not all the same. For example, importing a flywheel, may have a higher duty rate than say, 'automotive transmission components' - now, you're just a silly chump filling out the forms, so if you know which areas require less duty, you can 'work' the system slightly to allow a lower rate of duty to be applied to your imported goods. You're only going to save a few percentage points. But it can be done. Uhm, and if for some reason what you are doing gets questioned, you'd be like :dunno: But more often than not, you're not going to be questioned unless you are completely re-classifying the goods.
Cheating the duty by a couple percentage points isn't the point of this thread. Completely removing brokerage fees is the point!
Hope some people find this helpful. If brokerage fees annoy you, this the way to avoid them. If you think it's easy, power to you. If you think, my god, why would I do that? Pay your brokerage fees but at least understand the process so you know what it is you are paying for...
Check out this how-to:
DUTY AND GST (OUCH!)
"Other" shipping companies are still required to charge the same things for Duty and GST. Duty charges vary depending on the type of item you are importing. These are fixed percentages based on the amount and classification of the item. Please note that your government has established the rates applicable - not some shipping company. Duty and GST are not charges the shipping company is making up - they are actually charges from Canada Customs. The shipping companies merely collect this from you because they incurred these charges when they cleared the packages for you.
BROKERAGE FEES TOO... (UGH!)
The only variance in what you will pay to import your goods will be brokerage fees. But likely you will still pay brokerage fees of some level while it may vary from shipping company to shipping company. You may also find it increases based on the quantity and value of goods imported.
So, for all those people who don't understand how to NEVER PAY BROKERAGE FEES AGAIN, this post is special for you. Read on...
POWER OF ATTORNEY
First, shipments to businesses are different than shipments to individuals. When you ship via UPS, UPS has a little thing called Power of Attorney over personal shipments. This gives them the ability to automatically clear your package through customs. They fill and file the paperwork, and charge you a brokerage fee.
For businesses, Power of Attorney is not automatically given to UPS. So, UPS will contact the business asking who the broker for the company is. Large businesses will likely have a brokerage company do the work. OR the business can fill out a form which will give Power of Attorney to UPS for purpose of clearing the package(s) through customs as another option.
THIS IS WHERE IT GETS IMPORTANT
Whether your shipment is a personal thing, or a business thing, you have the option of "Self Clearing". What this means is that you are going to have to do the filling and filing of the paperwork yourself. In the case of a personal shipment, you MUST notify UPS as soon as you have the tracking number that you intend to self clear. In the case of a business, they will contact you - at which point you indicate you are going to self clear.
SELF CLEARING - THE BASICS
Once you have indicated that you are going to self clear...when your package 'arrives' at your shippers warehouse, they will prepare the necessary forms for self-clearing. You must then go to your shippers warehouse, and pick up these forms. You won't even require a pen! The forms are filled out already with the necessary information from the computer. So, off you go...
Once you have the clearing forms, you must then proceed to Canada Customs. (It's just off 32nd Avenue, N.E. - you turn left just before Staples, then right, then right in to the parking lot). This is handy, because pretty much all the shipping companies have warehouses just minutes away from this location.
Keep in mind you must be the person who the shipment is to, or you must be an individual with Power of Attorney over the Company if it is a business shipment.
Once you are inside, you will find a computer - and a book. The book contains all the line codes you may require to understand in order for you to fill out the forms correctly. Kind of like doing your taxes! (Same idea). When you have entered all the information, which will usually include ports of exit and port of entry, method of shipment, costs of goods, classification of goods, importer name, shipping costs, etc. The computer will then print out the finalized forms which will indicate how much you must pay in Duty and GST for your imported goods.
They have agents there who will then have a quick once over of your information, and then you will proceed to pay what you owe at the cash desk.
Once you have paid what you owe, your papers will be stamped "cleared". You return to your shipper with these papers, and they will retrieve your packages. You have just brokered your own packages, and have avoided brokerage fees completely.
SOUNDS LIKE TOO MUCH WORK
Then pay the damn brokerage fee and don't bitch! :rolleyes:
AS PROMISED, CHEATING THE SYSTEM
All goods imported in to Canada have different DUTY rates applied to them depending on the type of good. Even within the automotive realm, duty rates are not all the same. For example, importing a flywheel, may have a higher duty rate than say, 'automotive transmission components' - now, you're just a silly chump filling out the forms, so if you know which areas require less duty, you can 'work' the system slightly to allow a lower rate of duty to be applied to your imported goods. You're only going to save a few percentage points. But it can be done. Uhm, and if for some reason what you are doing gets questioned, you'd be like :dunno: But more often than not, you're not going to be questioned unless you are completely re-classifying the goods.
Cheating the duty by a couple percentage points isn't the point of this thread. Completely removing brokerage fees is the point!
Hope some people find this helpful. If brokerage fees annoy you, this the way to avoid them. If you think it's easy, power to you. If you think, my god, why would I do that? Pay your brokerage fees but at least understand the process so you know what it is you are paying for...