Originally Posted by TheDirtman

Poison spider customs are the way to go. They have several styles of stingers on a stubby bumper most under $400

http://shop.poisonspyder.com/Jeep-Fr...show=10&page=1

Originally Posted by rinkishJK

have u seen the new hanson stubby with stinger!?? i like it alot and im a huge lod stubby stinger fan.
imo i wouldnt even consider the others.. there have been issues with loD's coatings, which i believe there workin on or fixed.
my sliders took almost 9 weeks to get so plan on a wait for the loD...
i am seriously considering the hanson for myself when i ready..

Originally Posted by Austin's 09 JK

I'm running the Fab Fours stubby and couldnt be happier with the fit and finish of the product. They weld inside and out. The welds are excellent and the powdercoating is even and looks great!

The bumper went on like a glove and everything lined up perfectly first try. They are more expensive but in my book they are the better fabricators.

Originally Posted by aermotor

OR-Fab all the way. Theirs has better functionality with the cross member which is actually useful to gain more leverage when pulling out of inclines etc. Not to mention they're built like tanks and the cost... $200 cheaper for something just as good. That's the one thing that always shocks me about OR-Fab is their INSANELY competitive pricing.

LOD has a great rep, but they take advantage of that with their pricing imo.

Originally Posted by cbass1187

FIRST, I researched the crap out of this on this forum and tried to find as much information as I could and have come up with this.......I am finally looking to upgrade my JK Unlimited's front end and am in a toss up between the following four (4) bumpers:

Rugged Ridge XHD Winch w/ Stinger - $560 (includes fog lights)
Fab Fours Stubby w/ Grill Guard - $760 (includes fog lights)
LOD Shorty Stinger w/ Winch - $640 (includes fog lights)
Or Fab Front Stinger w/ Winch - $440 (DOES NOT includes fog lights)

The questions I have are mostly based on fit, finish, weight, and overall sizing.

Considering the Rugged Ridge has everything (stinger, winch mount, and fog light provisions) for around $560, it has my first vote, and all the reviews I have read have been positive, so that bumps it up the list as well. But the size appears to be the largest and bulkiest.

The Fab Four appears to be a perfect compromise in terms of Stubby Bumper w/ winch and fog light provisions, with a more tame/civilized “stinger” with the Grill Guard, but at over $750, the price is up there too…..My Fiancé doesn’t quite like the Stinger look, but I am working on her

The LOD Shorty and the Or Fab Shorty seem to be the cleanest and strongest looking stingers out there , but I have heard some bad things about the LOD finish coating and the extra $200 for the fog light provisions doesn’t appear to be worth it for the Or Fab.

I park my Jeep in our garage and have some room in front under a storage rack, but not a whole lot, and if I upsize my tires to wider 35's then the tire hanging off the back adds more length fit inside the garage door.

Does anyone who has any of these bumpers have any measurements with regards to how far in front the furthest points sits out from the jeep from a known point, say the jeep emblem on the grill?!?

SO, I am looking for comments/concerns/input for the pros and cons of these 4 bumpers, along with any measurements for how far they stick out in front of the physical grill of a Jeep JK. I need to be able to make a simple mock up and see how it fits in my garage after they would be mounted and add that to my decision making process.

I REALLY appreciate EVERYONE and ANYONE’S help with these 4 bumpers.

Thanks.