spray on bedliner duplicolor vs rustoleum
02-24-2011, 07:23 AM
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When i bedlined my interior (using rustoleum) i used no primer at all, I just sanded first then cleaned with acetone .if tried scraping it with my fingernail it would prolly cut my finger its on there so well. When i did my rims i used primer and i was able to scratch it right off. So to me it seems like it has something to do with the primer
edit: I also only let it dry for about 24 hours before putting all the seats back in
edit: I also only let it dry for about 24 hours before putting all the seats back in
You arent painting a stainless surface like aluminum. Thats my problem.
02-24-2011, 07:24 AM
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02-24-2011, 07:29 AM
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I guess i will give it a try without the primer as well..
Running out of sample pieces lol...
I mean worst case i will just leave the thing shiny and polish it... but over time it will show wear/scratches etc.
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02-24-2011, 09:00 AM
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What i also noticed is, the primer really never hardens, even after like 12 hours that scrapes off REALLY easy. Like if i touch it with my nail it comes off.
Hopefully primerless proves to work better. Saves money too if i dont need another 2 cans of primer lol.
update - it is not sticking at all.
Pisseddd off.
I wanna try duplicolor but i do not wanna throw another $15 in the garbage. if it doesnt work
Hopefully primerless proves to work better. Saves money too if i dont need another 2 cans of primer lol.
update - it is not sticking at all.
Pisseddd off.
I wanna try duplicolor but i do not wanna throw another $15 in the garbage. if it doesnt work
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02-24-2011, 12:23 PM
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Ok so I called rustoleum and they told me that after priming I can paint after 30 minutes, or 4 hours if I want to sand it.
The bedliner I should allow SEVEN DAYS to dry before attemtping to scratch at it. It takes at a minimum 72 hours to reach full hardness and should be given a week to be safe. (Especially considering it is winter)
Guess I will neeto be patient.
The bedliner I should allow SEVEN DAYS to dry before attemtping to scratch at it. It takes at a minimum 72 hours to reach full hardness and should be given a week to be safe. (Especially considering it is winter)
Guess I will neeto be patient.
02-26-2011, 09:59 AM
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ok, so far i have tested the following.
Rustoleum
Primer Only - Even after 30 minutes, is still scratched by the slightest touch. Absorbs grease VERY easily from fingertips. Cannot touch it without gloves.
Primer + Liner = Scratches too easily after a few days of drying
Liner only = Slightly harder to scratch but still nowhere near what a "Bed liner" Should be.
Conclusion - Rustoleum took their regular, textured black paint, and re-labeled the can. The finish is very thin, and nothing near what a bed liner that you can drop heavy construction materials on should be. The thicker texture of the dupli-color also allows more room for error because it will not puddle and hides imperfections much better due to its thickness.
Dupli-Color
Primer - Excellent so far, dries fully after 30 minutes or less ready for top coat/light sanding. Does not absorb grease from fingertips.
Liner only - have not tried this yet as the primer seems to be far higher quality.
Liner + Primer - Currently drying, will still be put to test but the product is FAR more bed liner like.
Conclusion - It is atleast 2x thicker than the rustoleum, and is more of a rubbery texture like a bed liner should be. So far, this is looking promising and the rustoleum has really let me down.
I will report back when i know how the dupli-color holds up as it is drying now. At this point i recommend avoiding rustoleum products, especially their self etching primer because it is total garbage and does not work at all to etch the metal.
Rustoleum
Primer Only - Even after 30 minutes, is still scratched by the slightest touch. Absorbs grease VERY easily from fingertips. Cannot touch it without gloves.
Primer + Liner = Scratches too easily after a few days of drying
Liner only = Slightly harder to scratch but still nowhere near what a "Bed liner" Should be.
Conclusion - Rustoleum took their regular, textured black paint, and re-labeled the can. The finish is very thin, and nothing near what a bed liner that you can drop heavy construction materials on should be. The thicker texture of the dupli-color also allows more room for error because it will not puddle and hides imperfections much better due to its thickness.
Dupli-Color
Primer - Excellent so far, dries fully after 30 minutes or less ready for top coat/light sanding. Does not absorb grease from fingertips.
Liner only - have not tried this yet as the primer seems to be far higher quality.
Liner + Primer - Currently drying, will still be put to test but the product is FAR more bed liner like.
Conclusion - It is atleast 2x thicker than the rustoleum, and is more of a rubbery texture like a bed liner should be. So far, this is looking promising and the rustoleum has really let me down.
I will report back when i know how the dupli-color holds up as it is drying now. At this point i recommend avoiding rustoleum products, especially their self etching primer because it is total garbage and does not work at all to etch the metal.
