Renegade

I'm not saying that a part of that quality shouldn't fetch such a price, just that at their price it's not going to be a "must have" part for most JK'ers. While I have seen many a broken shaft and u-joint, I haven't personally seen any broken unit bearings on the trail. If I do break one, I have the unit bearings from my D30 as spares. The axle shafts aren't compatible, but I can bolt the hub up and drive right out.

goose244

But what really sux is that for all of us that have gone out and spent money on wheels have thrown our moneys right out the window and will have to buy new wheels to fit. So $1200 for the conversion and another $800 for rims and another $30 a tire ($120) for mount and balance we're talking $2100+ plus labor but most of us will install them outselves. But still $2100+ for hubs is kinda crazy and if you brake it in the boonies will the local parts store or dealership be able get parts to get you going again the same day or will your rig have to sit a wait for them out in the middle of no-where. It's great that someone made a hub conversion kit but couldn't they have made one that would work with the existing hub assembly?? Sure 5 on 5.5 is better and stronger than 5 on 5 but for that amount I will get myself a Front & Rear bumper and a real good winch.

Piginajeep

5x5 is to small to make a hub assembly work, thank Jeep for that.

Piginajeep

you can always run 3 wheel drive with a hub kit

atomicmecha

so just to make sure i'm on the right page... with this kit, you basicly get new parts from the diff out? new shafts, new hubs, new bearings, etc? so is this kind of like buying on the the Supior axle shaft upgrades but you also get the locking hub feature?

i will admit that this sounds awesome if it can make the front shaft unlockable and still retain all the computer controlled features so that the Jeep won't go bezerk. Sounds like a fair price to me, guess its one of those inital investments that go a long way.

Piginajeep

You get new 30 spline stub shafts, not the long shafts.
the sensors all work, no issue there. I've beat the hell out of it testing them out.

IGOFSHN

It isn't a must have. You won't see an increase of MPG. It is a nice thing to have but it is pricey.

With your stock axles, if you break an axle or ujoint on the trail, you can pull it out and just run the outer without the inner. it is a pain but it will get you home.

wayoflife

Once again, I apologize for my initial enthusiasm and have since edited my post to read, "I can tell you that this is going to be an upgrade that a lot of guys I know will want."

kntr

What kind of MPG increases are we looking at?

jslamerman

You know I think this is a pretty good idea for a JK. MPG will certainly go up, how much is unknown, but I guarentee it will, as those axle/driveshaft/tcase input parts will not turn anymore, resulting in both a whole lot less driveline drag AND wear (4 wheeling causes sudden breakage, not longtime wear, and Ill bet it will add to the longeevity of ujoints/driveshafts and axle seals as well). I have 3 guys at home in Maine off the base waiting for this, 2 just because I touted certain gas mileage increase (small side Jeep business Ive got). I do have some questions as to any track width increase (scrub radius definitely has an affect on both handling, the effect of power steering in the rocks, and both ball joint/wheel bearing wear)?? I tried to call Matt back before I deployed to ask those questions, hard man to get ahold of. I also am wondering if it doesnt increase the track width, if anyone knows if there is enough material to simply redrill the stock rear axle flange??? (if there is additional width, can matching width spacers with the appropriate wheel pattern be found??) Lastly, the rotors come with the kit, can they be "made" later when a brake job is neccessary?? (Lets assume it is either not cost effective to mail order rotors from solid, or prior planning did not come into play).
The stock Rubi front axle wouldnt be bad at all, if someone could come up with some cost effective trussing for the weak tubes, and some weld on bracing for the inner "C"s. Think of it, 30 spline chromoly outers, the better Rubi ujoints (hopefully some aftermarket ones will be available soon, especially with this, they wont turn on the street anymore, so you could go with a bushing, CTM style, instead of needle bearings) some stout 33-35 spline inners, and a matching Detroit/ARB/OX.............just some food for thought. I certainly wouldnt want to do it all at once, if I did that, I would just invest in an aftermarket D60, but to be able to upgrade when stuff breaks!!