xravn

Anyone know when a snorkel intake kit is expected to hit the market? any word on the main guys developing one for the jk?


can't be too much diffrent looking then this? or anyone know if this kit will work?

wayoflife

Well, without a doubt, I'm sure that ARB is developing one. Last time I talked to them, they said they hoped to have some JK products out by Off Road Impact. I'll be there and will be sure to take some pics and find out the details if they have one by then or expect to have one soon.

RooX

i have been wondering when a snorkel set-up would be mentioned. All these cold air intakes leave me cold dont want to sip water into my vehicle. Not to mention if you get a snorkel and then a filter on top of it, you pretty much have the cleanest system possible, as its above most of the road grime and dirt.

Major Ho

Are there any downsides to getting a snorkel intake? Ive been poking around and it sounds like a snorkel somewhat acts as a cold air intake improving gas milage. Other than cost are there any major faults to such a system, or does the ability to wade through water out weigh any faults?

Thank you guys in advance

Phishjeep

Actually, performance with a snorkel is usually worse than stock (except fording performance, obviously). The intake air has to go through about 4-5 ft more pipe, which looks to the engine as a smaller airflow (more losses).

I know volant sold snorkel/CAIs for TJs, but I don't know anything about the mechanism.

xravn

yes and no, if all things where constant maybe it would be worse because of the longer tubing. but the piping is usally a larger diameter then stock, and the top of most aftermarket snorkel kits have a "Ram Air" scoop which by design increases airflow in the system. so in reality although you have longer tubing the design compesates for it. i would have to see actual dyno tests to see any loss or gain in power. but i would wager you don't loose power and gain the wading funciton. although power gains would have to be shown. i believe the system conpensates for the loss the length would induce.
just my professional observation

RooX

as well, the air is a colder denser air than that in the engine bay. I just looked around for some dyno results and failed. But in my eyes it should be a bit of a bonus.. with the added fact you dont have nearly the chance of getting water in your engine. Cold air intakes have always scared me for wheeling in anything but the driest of areas. And even in dry areas, the snorkel was also designed to take in a LOT less dust than any intake in an engine bay, due to the nature of it being above most of the dust swirls created by driving

Major Ho

Before reading anything at all I would have assumed what Phishjeep said was true as well, snorkels decrease power/fuel economy.
After stumbling upon a few sites, it sounds like snorkels act similar to but not quite as cold air intakes or ram air induction.
http://www.omninerd.com/2006/07/16/articles/57
This website has a whole bunch of pretty graphs and such but no dyno tests. Snorkel bit is half way down.

A coworker of mine who autocrosses just told me that longer air tubes mean more low end power. I dont know what to make of that really. I want numbers!

Phishjeep

Not exactly a scientific writeup. Colder air is great, but more flow is the chief advantage of most "cold air" intake systems. There are advantages to snorkels- power is not one of them.

I like snorkels, and will probably replace my Airaid with one when this Jeep is replaced as a daily driver and becomes my dedicated trail rig.

MY professional opinion is that there are many losses in the convoluted piping used to make a snorkel, and the fording ability is countered by losses in power, torque, and mileage.

BTW, I can't wait to see pictures of the snorkels you put in, and if I'm wrong about the numbers, I'd love to know that, too.

ThinkMud

huh? like the intake part facing the rear? I've never seen that, but it probably keep the bugs out, haha