Smittybilt SRC Side Armor...... what a joke
#21
Originally Posted by joneszj
...As far as an HD bumper or whatever, have you seen an XRC rear in person? Its pretty damn beefy. The weight of my bumper/carrier on the truck was over 200 lbs. It's thick steel.
I am not arguing or anything, and I am sure it is a great product. BUT... my SRC that I put on the front of my TJ has really heavy and solid feeling as well. Did not stop it from bending into my jeeps fender. It weighed like 100lbs. which I think is pretty hefty for a tube style bumper. Anyway, even if it has some issues and bends or dents... at that price it is worth it still IMO. I am sure it will be problem free for you, and they sure look great.
Sorry if my past experience is misunderstood. I do not in any way think that smitty makes garbage.
Last edited by bigbluejk; 07-20-2009 at 01:32 PM.
#22
I don't think the made in china is the problem - hell 75% of the shit on my jeep was made in china, the problem is the crappy welding techniques that smittybuilt has demonstrated over and over again in their cheap chinese production facilities. China has good producers and bad ones, and Transamerica has gone the cheap route when it comes to bumpers - or at least thats how it appears to me.
Ever since I joined this forum, I've yet to see any smittybuilt product in person that I was taken back by how good the build quality is. Let me be clear though, they are still descent product for the money and designed for a budget conscious consumer - nothing wrong with that. But if its pure quality welds and rock solid designs you're looking for, I'd put smittybuilt at the bottom of the list personally. And if its not at the bottom of your list, I don't think you've looked at enough products. I've seen enough of them up close to have my mind made up about their steel quality and welding quality. You get what you pay for!
Ever since I joined this forum, I've yet to see any smittybuilt product in person that I was taken back by how good the build quality is. Let me be clear though, they are still descent product for the money and designed for a budget conscious consumer - nothing wrong with that. But if its pure quality welds and rock solid designs you're looking for, I'd put smittybuilt at the bottom of the list personally. And if its not at the bottom of your list, I don't think you've looked at enough products. I've seen enough of them up close to have my mind made up about their steel quality and welding quality. You get what you pay for!
#23
You couldn't be more WRONG about the bumpers being junk. I cannot comment on the side armor or any other product as I have had no direct involvement but the Smittybilt XRC bumpers ARE NOT junk.
Not sure if you read that whole bumper thread but the guy contacted Smittybilt corporate and they went out of their way to correct the guy's issues AND ensure future people wouldn't have the same issue. I have had my front and rear XRC bumpers for months now with ABSOLUTELY ZERO ISSUES from either the installation or the ongoing use of them. There is nothing wrong with paying more for US made bumpers and think that it's the purchaser's choice to make. But know that unless you have owned the product in question, your comments are just opinions and should be treated as such.
Not sure if you read that whole bumper thread but the guy contacted Smittybilt corporate and they went out of their way to correct the guy's issues AND ensure future people wouldn't have the same issue. I have had my front and rear XRC bumpers for months now with ABSOLUTELY ZERO ISSUES from either the installation or the ongoing use of them. There is nothing wrong with paying more for US made bumpers and think that it's the purchaser's choice to make. But know that unless you have owned the product in question, your comments are just opinions and should be treated as such.
Not sure how people can generalize and comment about a product(s) they don't have experience using. Would I have loved to buy an American made product, "yes' and I still will in the future. Looked at other American made products before deciding on the SB XRC because the others lacked the rock angles I was looking for.
As for the Rock Rails...I got a pair of the XRC not the SRC rails so my comments are about those rails. They mounted up fine but aren't perfect they don't follow the body lines as well as I would have liked but I think it's because the body is not straight and the rails are. As for the design, they look good and tuck pretty high up to maximize the clearance. Now for the function, we'll the book is still out...I've only had them for about 3 weeks, took them off once and broke a nut clip (which SB replaced no problems) and I slammed it pretty hard on a boulder which it held up nicely to. Almost looking like it wanted more Anyway I debated heavily debate with my wife about installing them (we got them for free) but she convinced me to try them and so far so good...will let you all know soon since we have a Big Bear and Tahoe trip planned in the coming weeks and it should get some heavy experience!
Last edited by sm_rubi; 07-20-2009 at 04:06 PM.
#25
You couldn't be more WRONG about the bumpers being junk. I cannot comment on the side armor or any other product as I have had no direct involvement but the Smittybilt XRC bumpers ARE NOT junk.
Not sure if you read that whole bumper thread but the guy contacted Smittybilt corporate and they went out of their way to correct the guy's issues AND ensure future people wouldn't have the same issue. I have had my front and rear XRC bumpers for months now with ABSOLUTELY ZERO ISSUES from either the installation or the ongoing use of them. There is nothing wrong with paying more for US made bumpers and think that it's the purchaser's choice to make. But know that unless you have owned the product in question, your comments are just opinions and should be treated as such.
Not sure if you read that whole bumper thread but the guy contacted Smittybilt corporate and they went out of their way to correct the guy's issues AND ensure future people wouldn't have the same issue. I have had my front and rear XRC bumpers for months now with ABSOLUTELY ZERO ISSUES from either the installation or the ongoing use of them. There is nothing wrong with paying more for US made bumpers and think that it's the purchaser's choice to make. But know that unless you have owned the product in question, your comments are just opinions and should be treated as such.
#26
This might be a hijack, but it is related to cheap Chinese crap. In four months, I have added the following:
PJ rear bumper is rusting
PJ rockers rusting
OR-fab tire carrier rusting (not even installed, its still in storage)
Rockhard front bumper rusting
Tuffy stereo cover and cubby cover rusting
FT ultimate 3" lift with broken front swaybar links.
Smittybuilt winch, no rust, no problems.
I have had more problems with products made in the USA than anything else.
PJ rear bumper is rusting
PJ rockers rusting
OR-fab tire carrier rusting (not even installed, its still in storage)
Rockhard front bumper rusting
Tuffy stereo cover and cubby cover rusting
FT ultimate 3" lift with broken front swaybar links.
Smittybuilt winch, no rust, no problems.
I have had more problems with products made in the USA than anything else.
Read a post on their rear bumper and tire carrier being built overseas and having big issues, friggen junk... Tired of these companies out sourcing work and sticking it in our asses. Boycott these p.o.s. companies until they get their heads right. There is plenty of U.S. made products out there we can buy. It's up to us to spend the extra buck for quality U.S. steel and U.S. made products built by Americans.
#27
This might be a hijack, but it is related to cheap Chinese crap. In four months, I have added the following:
PJ rear bumper is rusting
PJ rockers rusting
OR-fab tire carrier rusting (not even installed, its still in storage)
Rockhard front bumper rusting
Tuffy stereo cover and cubby cover rusting
FT ultimate 3" lift with broken front swaybar links.
Smittybuilt winch, no rust, no problems.
I have had more problems with products made in the USA than anything else.
PJ rear bumper is rusting
PJ rockers rusting
OR-fab tire carrier rusting (not even installed, its still in storage)
Rockhard front bumper rusting
Tuffy stereo cover and cubby cover rusting
FT ultimate 3" lift with broken front swaybar links.
Smittybuilt winch, no rust, no problems.
I have had more problems with products made in the USA than anything else.
My preference is always to buy American if both are equal and not to make sacrafices. That's JMO, everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion.
#28
I think that the way you use your jeep must have some to do with all of that. I have PJ stubby on the front and no rust. If you have the tuffy stuff rusting on the inside I think it must be pretty scratched up and getting really wet. JMO.
#29
OR-fab tire carrier rusting (not even installed, its still in storage)
David
#30
I don't have problems some of you have had with side armor. In fact, I like them.
Didn't want to spend a lot of money on a replacement, especially since there isn't a rock within 100 miles to damage my rockers. However, I did want some basic protection.
Ended up going with the SRC Side Armor because I liked the look, they seemed fairly strong, had good feedback from a couple guys with them on the 2-door, and they were $240 shipped.
I know smittybilt doesn't have the greatest rep amongst some jeepers, but overall, I'm happy with them.
Very easy install - bolted right up to the body mounts. Start to finish, it took around 30 minutes.
The Smittybilt website photo makes it look like they have three mounting points. They don't... just two. They don't have any flex when you jump on them, and I did use them to lift one side of the jeep using a floor jack. There was a little flex, but didn't come close to touching the body.
Will they protect the body during moderate trails? Absolutely. Would I want something stronger if I was doing ridiculous over the top rock crawling? Yes I would.
But for $240, they meet my needs.
Here's some pics:
Didn't want to spend a lot of money on a replacement, especially since there isn't a rock within 100 miles to damage my rockers. However, I did want some basic protection.
Ended up going with the SRC Side Armor because I liked the look, they seemed fairly strong, had good feedback from a couple guys with them on the 2-door, and they were $240 shipped.
I know smittybilt doesn't have the greatest rep amongst some jeepers, but overall, I'm happy with them.
Very easy install - bolted right up to the body mounts. Start to finish, it took around 30 minutes.
The Smittybilt website photo makes it look like they have three mounting points. They don't... just two. They don't have any flex when you jump on them, and I did use them to lift one side of the jeep using a floor jack. There was a little flex, but didn't come close to touching the body.
Will they protect the body during moderate trails? Absolutely. Would I want something stronger if I was doing ridiculous over the top rock crawling? Yes I would.
But for $240, they meet my needs.
Here's some pics: