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Old 06-20-2010 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellbound13
I thought you are not supposed to turn that screw with the box mounted in the vehicle and especially not one and half times! I thought it was like 1/4th of a turn at most.
You are correct, Hellbound. There is no way to measure the results of your adjustment in the vehicle.

People still do it, though, probably at the expense of longevity.
Old 06-20-2010 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by longshank
Mine slowly got slack, thought it was the column sliding joint, but after removing it, it was tight, no slack at all, so put copper slip on it and refitted it.
The steering box seemed to be the problem, there was a good turn and a quarter on the top adjustment screw, now the steering is 99% better.
This is going to cause your box to wear out prematurely. That top adjustment screw is only half of the adjustment that is required to adjust it properly. The box has to be partially disassembled to do it properly.

If you still have warranty, I would set it back to where it was, and bring it in to them.
Old 07-03-2010 | 10:09 PM
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Well I was finally able to take apart my track bar bolt to take a look and see if the hole is wallowed. Well low and behold the weld on the top side of the track bar was broken. If it weren't for the gusset on the bottom this thing would have just snapped. My guess is that the bushing, the bolt and the mounting holes are fine. The hole on the rear side of the frame mount is a little more open than the front but I'm sure it was holding together fine and the culprit is the broken weld.

New video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba5Xbmi_Zw8

Lots of dirt and grease just after taking it out.




The bushing isn’t lining up correctly with the track bar end.


Lining the bolt up with the front facing side of the track bar frame-mount.


Appears to be tight.


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View from underneath at the track bar frame end after cleaning.




Top view



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Old 07-03-2010 | 10:30 PM
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the play in the track bar from the broken weld could have wallowed out that rear hole im bettin
Old 07-03-2010 | 10:57 PM
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Wow... Now you are making me want to keep an eye on my JKS Trac-Bar. That weld certainly fatigued the metal. Have you contacted full-traction to see if they will cover it under warranty? That is most definitely a manufacturer defect.
Old 07-04-2010 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Stuka
Wow... Now you are making me want to keep an eye on my JKS Trac-Bar. That weld certainly fatigued the metal. Have you contacted full-traction to see if they will cover it under warranty? That is most definitely a manufacturer defect.
I've contacted someone there who will be getting in touch with Steve. We'll see what they say. I have owned it for just over two years. Their preliminary response is that the track bar has been touching my diff cover ever so slightly and that this over time has caused the weld to fail.
Old 07-04-2010 | 02:36 PM
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You also have waaaay to much grease in that poly bushing. That is why it is pushing out. It should take maybe one pump a year.
Old 07-04-2010 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pkess3
I've contacted someone there who will be getting in touch with Steve. We'll see what they say. I have owned it for just over two years. Their preliminary response is that the track bar has been touching my diff cover ever so slightly and that this over time has caused the weld to fail.
Originally Posted by GoodysGotaCuda
, yea, okay...I'd expect that from a factory or cheapie track bar. It's an "heavy duty" aftermarket part, unless it's literally catching the diff cover (which it isn't), it shouldn't give a crap. Poor weld in my opinion....it happens. They shouldn't try and put it on the diff cover, in my opinion.
I'm not trying to blame it on the diff, its a very good possibility. These trackbars just dont break. If it was a bad weld it would have broken from the start. We have been asking for photo's for the last two weeks.

this is the first track bar we have seen break like this. We run this style on the Jeepspeed XJ's and the competition rock crawlers and never had one break, we have thousands of these on jeeps right now. From the pictures it is a good possibility its from the trackbar hitting the diff cover, its a known issue on the after market covers if your control arms are not dialed in correctly. (we have changed the curve on the trackbars so this is no longer an issue) The track bar is not made to have forced applied to it like that. IF its been hitting his diff for the two years he's been running the trackbar, it would weaken the joint slowly until it finally gave out. there is some marks on the track bar and the diff. This just proves how strong that gusset is.

Like I told him, I've talk to Steve (owner) several times today about the problem. We're going to make it right.

Sorry theres little we can do on the holiday weekend, We have been talking to him over the last two weeks asking for photos. I also talked with him via PM lastnight (2am) and several times today. As I said in the PM, Do not drive the JK.

We are still waiting on photo's of the back of the trackbar and the front of the diff cover. Please PM me the pictures when you can. Please call first thing tuesday morning.

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Old 07-05-2010 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellbound13
You also have waaaay to much grease in that poly bushing. That is why it is pushing out. It should take maybe one pump a year.
This track bar bushing in particular (and it has been noted in many threads on this forum) requires a TON of grease in order to prevent it from squeaking and making all kinds of noises. https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...l=1#post187648 I have had to uninstall and regrease this bushing several times because of loud squeaking noises as well as re-tightening from it getting loose a couple times (yes I torqued it to the 125lb ft of torque each time as specified in Eddie's writeup http://project-jk.com/jeep-jk-write-...ation-write-up).

Originally Posted by Full-Traction Suspension
We have been talking to him over the last two weeks asking for photos. I also talked with him via PM lastnight (2am) and several times today. As I said in the PM, Do not drive the JK. .
Yes and when I talked with Steve on the phone two weeks ago I mentioned to him that I was going to be out of town for work and wouldn't be able to take the track bar off yet. At that point it appeared to be a bushing failure. He said that was fine and to keep him informed when I finally gotten around to it. I finally had a chance two days ago.

Originally Posted by Full-Traction Suspension
We are still waiting on photo's of the back of the trackbar and the front of the diff cover. Please PM me the pictures when you can. Please call first thing tuesday morning.
I will be flying to Reno for work early tomorrow morning. I'm not sure how much time I will have but will try to remember to call sometime Tuesday. I return home on Thursday and will be able to call for sure.

I believe in this photo you can clearly see the back side. http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/a...Detatch019.jpg And it does appear to have a tiny mark. I think perhaps it does slightly touch at full passenger turn and only when the driver's side front tire is stuffed up into the fender but this is a rare occurance and after two years has only created the tiny mark you see in the pic. I still doubt that would have been enough force overtime to cause a good weld to fail. I would expect the bushing to fail before the weld if there was significant binding over time.
Old 07-05-2010 | 09:09 AM
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No problem, when you get time please call in and talk with steve.

Or if you have time package the trackbar and ship it to us this week so we can inspect it.

Thanks Chris


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