JKRINGO

Sorry ECHO, but I'd have to consider that a "Down grade"

earfixr

Yall are funny but apparently haven't felt the mini van motor bogg when the nanny state rev limiter kicks in. Not exactly fun in the middle of a mud pit when I was counting on that momentum. As far as hearing and feeling? Yes smart azz, on the street where your jeep spends most of it's life I'm sure you can shift well under the rev limiter. That's not what I was trying to do here but thanks for the suggestions.