Rock Rails Suggestion
08-20-2013, 11:11 AM
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Frame mounted is way stronger and preferred if you are going to be bashing them off rocks. LOD's like I have a frame mounted (drilling about 8 holes per side) and have a step. Evo sells weld on ones which are suppsosedly some of the strongest ones out there. I just know my LOD's have been abused badly but have held up wthout issue.
As for the Ace rails with Rubi sliders....I've seen what happens if you bounce them hard enough on rocks and it's not pretty. By leaving the rubi rails on, you eliminate/reduce the spacing between the ace slider and body so any flex you get on the ace tends to push into the rubi slider. I've seen real body damage occur when this happened.
As for the Ace rails with Rubi sliders....I've seen what happens if you bounce them hard enough on rocks and it's not pretty. By leaving the rubi rails on, you eliminate/reduce the spacing between the ace slider and body so any flex you get on the ace tends to push into the rubi slider. I've seen real body damage occur when this happened.
WHAT!!! ive had the weight of my entire rig (just about) on one ace rail. f/n strong as hell no doubt about it. slammed all over rocks too and they still look new -never once caused any damage. but I don't run the Rubik's cube rails tho... 
08-20-2013, 11:12 AM
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08-20-2013, 11:38 AM
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As for the Ace rails with Rubi sliders....I've seen what happens if you bounce them hard enough on rocks and it's not pretty. By leaving the rubi rails on, you eliminate/reduce the spacing between the ace slider and body so any flex you get on the ace tends to push into the rubi slider. I've seen real body damage occur when this happened.
I have seen Ace rails with rubi rails and without rubi rails do damage to the body of the jeep. Without the rubi rail they flex up into the pinch seam, crushing it. With the rubi rail in the way the damage is much less, but a hard enough hit will slam the rubi rail into the rocker panel.
I have even seen ace rails pull the other direction, they were hooked on an overhang and began to bend down and tear off. Bear in mind this is all rather hard wheeling. IMO they hang down quite low and work well as a light duty rail.
With any rail you have basically two options, body/body bolt mounted and frame mounted. Frame mounted will always be the strongest. Always. But often you sacrifice some clearance. Body/body bolt will be weaker due to what they mount to. Body bolt mounted have a tendancy to flex quite a bit and can contact the rocker panel and dent it. Direct body mount (boatside) are usually very high clearance, but are only as stong as the surface they attach to, and the factory sheet metal isnt all that strong.
FWIW I went with body mounted (boat side) Poison Spider Brawlers for the highest clearance possible. I have buckled my rocker panel in two spots since and dented the slider itself.
08-20-2013, 12:05 PM
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Id fab up your own i got flat stock and channel and have dropped all the weight of the vehicle on then very hard and they havent budged at all. N this still has the rubi rails on as a backbone
08-20-2013, 01:24 PM
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Ace offers a weld on slider as well, I can't speak to that. That said...
I have seen Ace rails with rubi rails and without rubi rails do damage to the body of the jeep. Without the rubi rail they flex up into the pinch seam, crushing it. With the rubi rail in the way the damage is much less, but a hard enough hit will slam the rubi rail into the rocker panel.
I have even seen ace rails pull the other direction, they were hooked on an overhang and began to bend down and tear off. Bear in mind this is all rather hard wheeling. IMO they hang down quite low and work well as a light duty rail.
With any rail you have basically two options, body/body bolt mounted and frame mounted. Frame mounted will always be the strongest. Always. But often you sacrifice some clearance. Body/body bolt will be weaker due to what they mount to. Body bolt mounted have a tendancy to flex quite a bit and can contact the rocker panel and dent it. Direct body mount (boatside) are usually very high clearance, but are only as stong as the surface they attach to, and the factory sheet metal isnt all that strong.
FWIW I went with body mounted (boat side) Poison Spider Brawlers for the highest clearance possible. I have buckled my rocker panel in two spots since and dented the slider itself.
I have seen Ace rails with rubi rails and without rubi rails do damage to the body of the jeep. Without the rubi rail they flex up into the pinch seam, crushing it. With the rubi rail in the way the damage is much less, but a hard enough hit will slam the rubi rail into the rocker panel.
I have even seen ace rails pull the other direction, they were hooked on an overhang and began to bend down and tear off. Bear in mind this is all rather hard wheeling. IMO they hang down quite low and work well as a light duty rail.
With any rail you have basically two options, body/body bolt mounted and frame mounted. Frame mounted will always be the strongest. Always. But often you sacrifice some clearance. Body/body bolt will be weaker due to what they mount to. Body bolt mounted have a tendancy to flex quite a bit and can contact the rocker panel and dent it. Direct body mount (boatside) are usually very high clearance, but are only as stong as the surface they attach to, and the factory sheet metal isnt all that strong.
FWIW I went with body mounted (boat side) Poison Spider Brawlers for the highest clearance possible. I have buckled my rocker panel in two spots since and dented the slider itself.
Last edited by Rubiconlaw; 08-20-2013 at 01:31 PM.
