I too hope both sides learn. I am sure since I have been out of the loop, light years of advancements have taken place. .....but imagine, if you will, a 3.8L built with ALL the good stuff I've talked about in all my posts. If the RIPP deal can make a stocker make 107 more rear wheel hp, what the hell could it do with some high strength internals and HIGH boost numbers???? You'd have to upgrade the whole drivetrain to take it........and that would be a good thing. LOL

 

Absolutely.....now how cool would that be!?!?

 

Well Quite well as the math puts me in boost @1700ish and drops off @ 5600ish. again this is the math and I have no real dyno time BUT I am confident the #'s will be darn close as the same math was used on our other projects RX7,RX8 and Acura Integra and it was =/- 2% That being said My reasons ARE: #1 Price, my buddy is giving me the Turbo and our company is paying for the project. At the end of the day we are testing our software. I will post about that when we have the TRUE JEEP #'s and I talk to WOL and become a sponsor here. #2:As we JK owners know by now our JK's suck in acceleration until 2K anyway, so if I am making boost @1700 that is an improvment. #3: When I am not in boost or little boost my MPG will stay higher. as aposed to a tied to the RPM FI. BUT What we are really trying to do with FI is boost the PPO2 in our cyls so we have a more complete burn in there. So I am betting I will be happy with it and my lil 1 GAL engine will scream when I want it. Oh and "turbo Lag" is nearly erraticated like the Small Pox LOL. Just need to match the Turbo to the size of UR engine.

 

I recall reading an artical in a magazine a few years ago about a very successful builder of Allison V12 engines for airplane racing. Apparently he was quite successful and I expected that he would talk about things like porting and such. But no, he said it basically came down to making everything strong and then cramming as much boost in as you could. If, or when it blew up, you made that stronger and used more boost.

I imagine it would be neat to have a 3.8 built with trick parts to handle a lot of boost but if that was done the cost would probably exceed the Hemi. One could argue that the 3.8 would be lighter, but as heavy as these things are and with all the crap we hang on them I don't think that is a big issue.

If it cost as much to pull, build a stout 3.8 block, install the motor, SC and new tranny as a Hemi would cost why go SC or turbo. It seems that it only makes sense if the cost is half or less then a Hemi conversion.

So maybe it all comes down to money; doesn't it always? Our options may be:
1) Learn to love the stock 3.8 at the cost of 0k
2) Install gears and learn to love the stock 3.8 for 1200-1300
3) Install a SC for 4-5k
4) AEV Hemi kit plus motor and trans for 10k or ?
5) Professsionally installed hemi for 15-25k

Maybe Ripps way is the middle ground. Less power than could be obtained with a purpose built 3.8 but with a reasonable cost and adequate power boost and longevity. Heck, I don't know.

 

Remember...Dare to be Different. nothing worst then being the same as everyone else.

i will reiterate again...you guys really should hear the Ripp kit up close...damn it just sounds different in everyway...when the throttle goes...you can hear the motor making power...its crazy awesome...

 

I leave daring to be different to others; I want results, affordable results.

I'd love to talk to the Ripp people, look at an install and maybe drive it. Are there any out here in Western CO or Eastern Utah?

 

Naa..you misunderstood what I meant...the RIPP guys are daring to be different. We just reap the benefits.

I don't know of a RIPP Jeep out that way. So I can't answer that. Maybe when they have finally rested from the event this weekend they will chime in.

 

You're right about the money aspect for sure....it would just be cool to see exactly what you COULD get out of a stock bore and stroke 3.8. I wouldn't think 500 HP would be out of the question. I've seen a 1000+ HP Buick 3.8 V6 that ran 8.60s @ 161 MPH. Course that was with two turbos and all kinda stuff. Still though, it was only 3.8L.

 

Yup I have seen that kinda stuff too....Crazy...

Would be cool to really see what the 3.8 can do. Would I like to have an MDS Hemi? Sure....but, in a twisted kinda way...I'd like to have a powerful 3.8. Yeah i am crazy.

 

I'm gonna investigate this Ripp thing more. Nothing I could do in the near future....but maybe way down the road. I mean, if the thing is as bullit proof as they make it sound, it may work. I wouldn't mind drivin one.