you mean like this....




been there done that and without a rear winch...


again, it wasn't easy but believe it or not, it can be done. please don't take this the wrong way but experience can help more than a rear winch in situations like this.

and there's nothing wrong with that

 

its to funny some times how the answers unfold. i never said anything about wheelin alone or absolutly needing a rear winch to get me home. i can't ever see myself being up to the top of the windsheild in water but i want a snorkel

 

LOL!! and what can i say - if you want one for just for wanting one, more power to ya

 

Very similar however the mud was alot soupier and my front bumper was about half way under mud to where I had to dig some out of the way to get a shackle off the front to atach to the rear hitch point to be pulled out. I have a clayton 3.5 lift and 33" tires with ful rock hard skids and the rugged ridge front modular bumper I was basically digging myself deeper in the front when I used my winch until the cable snapped. then I had a few buddies try pulling me out from the rear with two trucks tied together with snatch starps that were about 30 feet each one and even then they didn't have enough traction to pull me out. Here are some that I tried to attach hope they can be seen. the one where I am at was when we first started to try to pull me out then the cable broke because my skids were creating to much of a vacuum to the mud and just made it really soupy. I was able to walk across the top with no problem and that is why I decided to try to cross it after the jeep sank it disturbed the top layer and I sank to my knees around the jeep.

 

WOL and mutts those pics rock!

 

If you want a rear winch I would think that the best and easiest option is to get one in a cradle like Warn has that you can plug into a 2" reciever hitch. Then if you have the same plug on the front bumper you could only have one winch, but use it for either end.

 

I WANT TO DECREASE MY DEPARTURE ANGLE NOT INCREASE IT

 

now that's what i call a sticky situation. however, i fail to see how a rear winch would have helped you in this situation. if the two trucks couldn't pull you out because they didn't have enough traction, a winch would just end up pulling them to you. the key in a situation like this is positioning and more times than not, the use of a snatch block or two.

in the photos i posted, the dry lake was more like a thin crust that broke away to a slick and incredibly sticky clay. attempting to crawl out only dug us in deeper and any attempt to spin the wheels fast in an effort to clean the lugs proved to be futile as the clay became a permanent part of the tires. we eventually sunk our axles and skids deep into the muck and pulling ourselves backwards proved to be impossible. the trick here was to use our winch strategically and maneuver ourselves out through a series of side pulls.

 

Most people want to increase their angle, not decrease it. Are you sure you don't have those terms reversed? With a 2" receiver winch mount you would be able to store the winch on the inside and out of the elements, and you wouldn't do anything to your departure angles since pretty much all bumpers either have a reciever built in.

 

i think he just got the terms mixed up. also, if anything, i would go the warn cradle route you're describing and just store it inside.