abock33

So I'm sitting bored at work and I'm thinking about my rear seatbelts and ways to fix them. (Yea I got that kinda time at work). I can't stand the fact that the rear belts lock up and I've been looking at ways to fix this.

I found a solution and was wondering if anyone has done this.

Can you install the center belt into the sides of the seats? Two assembly would run about 150 bucks. I haven't taken my seat apart to see if it can be done but all (I think) would have to be done is a little cutting, sewing, and a few bolts here and there.

I don't know why they weren't put there in the first place. And I don't really wanna use a belt extender.

Has anyone done this?

captjay

not really sure what u are trying to accomplish, but

my guess why any seatbelt is not mounted to the sides of a seat is its not a good anchor point and would not be able to withstand the force from an impact

abock33

I realize they wouldn't be as strong as the oem belts but I think Jeep could have put the ratcheting system closer to the seat instead of by the tailgate. My thought was to get rid of them and use the center belt setup for the side seats. That one comes out of the bench seat back I can't see where its secured to anything but I would assume it'd hooked to the seat somewhere.

ronjenx

This was very annoying to my rear seat passengers on a 3 hour trip recently. They kept trying to ride unbelted on the sly.
This is what I came up with:

sixt7gt350

I guess I don't get what's happening.
The seatbelts are "dual mode ALR/ELR," which means they ratchet only after being pulled out past the ALR trigger. They should only lock up in ELR mode when there is sufficient vehicle orientation, acceleration, or belt webbing acceleration to warrant lockup.
ALR mode is for kiddie car seats, so they stay tight.
Unless your passengers are REALLY big or they have a habit of pulling the belts out all the way when they latch them, the belts shouldn't be in ALR mode.

ronjenx

That is all true, except the passenger doesn't have to be "REALLY big".
I originally thought that was the case, but since then I have noticed it happening on "slightly bigger than average" passengers.
The clip will work for anyone who finds the feature annoying, and it "fixes" it with no modifications.

abock33

What's happening is the belt is pulled out and the ratcheting starts too soon. I know it's there for safety and is doing it's job but it happens when you put the belt on, so as soon as you let go it ratchets back strangling the passenger or tightening them to the seat. The main flaw in the system is where the anchor and pivot point are located. There is too much belt out due to the mounts.



What I'm wondering is if it's possible to do this.




I know it's not as sturdy as the ones on the rollbar but I would be using the same set up as the one in the middle. And that one is approved for where it's at (on the side of the seat.) It also ratchets, but it takes alot more belt to do it.

ronjenx

Because it's so much fun to work on them.

Arcticanalog

This whole thing kinda seems like a bad idea. You're in a vehicle most prone to rolling out of all cars and you want to mess with the seat belts? Ballsy dude

mjolnir

x2 I wouldn't screw around with the seat belts. I'd feel pretty bad if it cost a friend or relatives life if the belt failed.

The potato-chip-clip idea looks pretty good. It's simple, safe and cheap