Ready lift and spare tire problem
#1
Ready lift and spare tire problem
Hi,
I just purchased a 2010 wrangler unlimited sport a little over a week ago. It came with a dealer installed package with 3" lift from Ready Lift, 35" Good Year MTR's, Bushwacker Fender Flares and XD Series wheels. I love the look of this jeep but hate the spacer lift they installed on it. I mean the company won't even back up their product if it is used in an offroad application so how good can it be. My question is what can be done if anything with this lift to improve it without actually throwing it all away? Can anything be added to it to improve it? It really wanders around on back roads and doesn't feel stable over bumps at moderate speed.
The spare tire wasn't installed very efficiently either. It bounces around alot on rough roads because the dealer used spacers to reinstall it. I suggested they replace their mess with MBRP's spare tire relocation kit, their tailgate reinforcement kit and DayStar's spare tire bump stop extensions. Long story short service manager said it wasn't their fault because they sent the work out. I asked if I should wait for the tailgate to sag or for the rivets to pull apart inside the tailgate and then do a warranty claim. Some other words were exchanged and I eventually spoke with the sales manager who said they would look at it and make it right. I know the lift was my choice to accept when I purchased it but does anyone think I'm asking too much of them or that I'm out of line? The salesman told me this wrangler was done professionally and I would have no problems with it. I feel its the least they can do after the shotty lift they chose to install. I'm scheduled to take it in tomorrow to have the speedometer recalibrated (oh yeah they dropped the ball there too...never calibrated speedo for the 35's) and spare tire checked and wanted some other opinions on this.
Thanks in advance
I just purchased a 2010 wrangler unlimited sport a little over a week ago. It came with a dealer installed package with 3" lift from Ready Lift, 35" Good Year MTR's, Bushwacker Fender Flares and XD Series wheels. I love the look of this jeep but hate the spacer lift they installed on it. I mean the company won't even back up their product if it is used in an offroad application so how good can it be. My question is what can be done if anything with this lift to improve it without actually throwing it all away? Can anything be added to it to improve it? It really wanders around on back roads and doesn't feel stable over bumps at moderate speed.
The spare tire wasn't installed very efficiently either. It bounces around alot on rough roads because the dealer used spacers to reinstall it. I suggested they replace their mess with MBRP's spare tire relocation kit, their tailgate reinforcement kit and DayStar's spare tire bump stop extensions. Long story short service manager said it wasn't their fault because they sent the work out. I asked if I should wait for the tailgate to sag or for the rivets to pull apart inside the tailgate and then do a warranty claim. Some other words were exchanged and I eventually spoke with the sales manager who said they would look at it and make it right. I know the lift was my choice to accept when I purchased it but does anyone think I'm asking too much of them or that I'm out of line? The salesman told me this wrangler was done professionally and I would have no problems with it. I feel its the least they can do after the shotty lift they chose to install. I'm scheduled to take it in tomorrow to have the speedometer recalibrated (oh yeah they dropped the ball there too...never calibrated speedo for the 35's) and spare tire checked and wanted some other opinions on this.
Thanks in advance
#2
sorry i cant speak on your the rest of your topic
most dealerships can only recalibrate or "flash" the computer up to 32" tires. now this was soome time ago so maybe they have the programmer to do it now. i would hate to go in, them try to flash and they say cant do it and charge u anyways or worse case, they keep ur jeep all day, say its flashed and they really did nothing but sit and drink coffee while u waited.
i do appologize, i am very very skeptical of dealerships, no i do not trust them at all if u cant tell
i would make sure before u start that if they cannot flash for 35's, if they will still charge, some can charge up to $100 for this
most dealerships can only recalibrate or "flash" the computer up to 32" tires. now this was soome time ago so maybe they have the programmer to do it now. i would hate to go in, them try to flash and they say cant do it and charge u anyways or worse case, they keep ur jeep all day, say its flashed and they really did nothing but sit and drink coffee while u waited.
i do appologize, i am very very skeptical of dealerships, no i do not trust them at all if u cant tell
i would make sure before u start that if they cannot flash for 35's, if they will still charge, some can charge up to $100 for this
#3
I am not very familiar with the Ready lift kit which appears to be just a Budget Boost, but a simple comparison with the Teraflex 2.5 BB ( which is very popular and liked in this forum and lower cost) shows that your kit is probably missing longer sway bar links.
Given that everything else is spacers (3" F and 2" R), TB brackets and bolts, that is real difference. The sway bar is there to control lateral sway (body roll), so when you it hit a bump with just one side of the Jeep or when you turn and there is a weight transfer, the sway bar is there to reduce this movement. The links connect the sway bar to axle, so if the are too short they will limit axle movement. This is why man disconnect them off road; to maximize suspension flex.
I don't think you are going to get very far with the spare tire argument given that the dealer is free to modify at their discression. If you already purchased the JK, you have lost most of your leverage.
Just buy a quality rear bumper/carrier as soon as you can.
Also buy a Procal to recalibrate or even better a Flashpaq to recalibrate the tire size and reprogram the PCM with a profile made for human consumption.
Above all, don't get too frustrated, enjoy your new Jeep.
Given that everything else is spacers (3" F and 2" R), TB brackets and bolts, that is real difference. The sway bar is there to control lateral sway (body roll), so when you it hit a bump with just one side of the Jeep or when you turn and there is a weight transfer, the sway bar is there to reduce this movement. The links connect the sway bar to axle, so if the are too short they will limit axle movement. This is why man disconnect them off road; to maximize suspension flex.
I don't think you are going to get very far with the spare tire argument given that the dealer is free to modify at their discression. If you already purchased the JK, you have lost most of your leverage.
Just buy a quality rear bumper/carrier as soon as you can.
Also buy a Procal to recalibrate or even better a Flashpaq to recalibrate the tire size and reprogram the PCM with a profile made for human consumption.
Above all, don't get too frustrated, enjoy your new Jeep.
#4
Would it be worth my time to add the sway bar links or should I look at changing this setup all together.
Thanks
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The max Energy will correct for non stock gear and tire size along with engine tuning for premium, or regular fuel, it can also adjust you fans for lower temperature settings.
Please feel free to contact me with any questions you might have.
Please feel free to contact me with any questions you might have.
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Fan temp settings you can choose are stock, 195, or 180 degrees.
If the tune is made for premium fuel you must run premium, using a lower octane will cause a loss in horsepower due to knock retard.
If the tune is made for premium fuel you must run premium, using a lower octane will cause a loss in horsepower due to knock retard.
#9
to be honest i did end up switching back to the 87
edit: i checked ur website, and i cant find what i was talking about. i swear i read from hypertech about this when i originaly purchased, could this be something that said when the product came out and then changed later on? for the life of me, i cant remeber where i read that, but if what i have said is incorrect then i def need to know
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You can program for 87 octane and run any octane higher or just 87.
If you program for premium you have to use premium fuel.
In my 2008 model, I use 87-octane tune with 87 fuel during DD. When I tow my Bass boat I use the 87 octane setting with 89 fuel, I noticed a slight fuel economy gain over 87 fuel only while towing. During unloaded DD, I have noticed no difference in economy between 87 and 89. I run the premium setting during trail rides.
Good luck, if you have any questions or just want to share your experience do not hesitate to call.
Jay ext.1435 800-532-3351
If you program for premium you have to use premium fuel.
In my 2008 model, I use 87-octane tune with 87 fuel during DD. When I tow my Bass boat I use the 87 octane setting with 89 fuel, I noticed a slight fuel economy gain over 87 fuel only while towing. During unloaded DD, I have noticed no difference in economy between 87 and 89. I run the premium setting during trail rides.
Good luck, if you have any questions or just want to share your experience do not hesitate to call.
Jay ext.1435 800-532-3351