Rabicon D44 front a good buy?
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Yeah, just depends on the options you choose. When I got my PR44 (back before all these other companies released their versions), I was cash-poor and wanted to keep the costs down, so opted for new factory balljoints (included in the cost), and re-used the outer axle shafts from my d30 instead of going for a full chromo set. And let my shop talk me into an arb instead of the truetrac I knew I wanted... Just gotta figure out what is right for you.
For a while G2's front 44 was getting a lot of attention because of the great rebate. Put the price well below any of the others. But I think it's only $250 now? And I saw the Dana Ultimate 44 that sok66 mentioned for $2995 at northridge4x4. (5/16" tube walls instead of 1/4". Thicker brackets. Chromoly shafts - though it doesn't give an indication of the strength upgrade. 4.88 gears. A 'performance' diff cover - again, no indication of how special it is. And the factory e-locker.) Actually haven't seen much feedback on these, but might be a solid choice.
For a while G2's front 44 was getting a lot of attention because of the great rebate. Put the price well below any of the others. But I think it's only $250 now? And I saw the Dana Ultimate 44 that sok66 mentioned for $2995 at northridge4x4. (5/16" tube walls instead of 1/4". Thicker brackets. Chromoly shafts - though it doesn't give an indication of the strength upgrade. 4.88 gears. A 'performance' diff cover - again, no indication of how special it is. And the factory e-locker.) Actually haven't seen much feedback on these, but might be a solid choice.
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Like the OP, I want to avoid the $5K front axle upgrades. My needs just don't justify it. Here's kind of my current thought of upgrading from a D30.
Factory D44 take-off $2500
- Slightly stronger axle
- Larger pumpkin
- Factory locker
- 4.11 gears
Plus add cost of trusses and C Gussets if you're looking for an increase in strength.
or Ultimate D44 for $3K.
- Much stronger chromoly axle shafts
- Larger pumpkin
- Factory lockers
- Your choice of gears included
- Increased strength control arm mounts
- increased strength tubes
- increased strength C's
- improved design U-Joints
- HD diffy cover
Seems like a pretty obvious choice if you're targeting a similar budget price range and coming from a D30 front.
The other thing I personally don't like about the factory D44, is that you can't install a Truetrac LSD in it, if you prefer that option over lockers. Currently trying to understand, if the scenario is the same or not for the Ultimate D44 in regards to the ability to put in a Truetrac LSD.
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Honestly, I think it takes quite a bit more to break even an un-reinforced D30 than most do. Most people aren't abusing them as much as they think they are. The real dilemma is always when it comes to regearing and the thought of putting any money at all in to a D30.....and it's hard to get over the hurdle of tossing a perfectly firn D30 to the side and pony'ing up for an upgraded axle.
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The way I look at it, if you are already looking to spend thousands on something, you might as well get it built to your on specifications, and not investing that kind of money into used with unknown mileage or condition (bent or straight). The extra $$$ you spend is insurance that you are getting what you need, and not having to do the labor of removing that axle ever again.
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I was just goofing on Rednroll......as I know he's itching for a regear. Saying things like "Once my D30 breaks" only ensures that sucker is gonna last a long time.
Honestly, I think it takes quite a bit more to break even an un-reinforced D30 than most do. Most people aren't abusing them as much as they think they are. The real dilemma is always when it comes to regearing and the thought of putting any money at all in to a D30.....and it's hard to get over the hurdle of tossing a perfectly firn D30 to the side and pony'ing up for an upgraded axle.
Honestly, I think it takes quite a bit more to break even an un-reinforced D30 than most do. Most people aren't abusing them as much as they think they are. The real dilemma is always when it comes to regearing and the thought of putting any money at all in to a D30.....and it's hard to get over the hurdle of tossing a perfectly firn D30 to the side and pony'ing up for an upgraded axle.
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I was just goofing on Rednroll......as I know he's itching for a regear. Saying things like "Once my D30 breaks" only ensures that sucker is gonna last a long time.
Honestly, I think it takes quite a bit more to break even an un-reinforced D30 than most do. Most people aren't abusing them as much as they think they are. The real dilemma is always when it comes to regearing and the thought of putting any money at all in to a D30.....and it's hard to get over the hurdle of tossing a perfectly firn D30 to the side and pony'ing up for an upgraded axle.
Honestly, I think it takes quite a bit more to break even an un-reinforced D30 than most do. Most people aren't abusing them as much as they think they are. The real dilemma is always when it comes to regearing and the thought of putting any money at all in to a D30.....and it's hard to get over the hurdle of tossing a perfectly firn D30 to the side and pony'ing up for an upgraded axle.
My current roadmap plan
4.88 gears
Detroit TrueTrac LSDs front and rear
That's the reason I'm interested in understanding with the Ultimate D44, if I can put a LSD in there or not. Would like to shop around to see if I can order it from somewhere with a Truetrac instead of the locker installed. Considering the price of the UD44, and what I need (knowing I won't likely break the D30), that may be my best upgrade path instead of doing the re-gear and Truetrac additiion to the front D30.