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Offset and Backspace: How do they relate?

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Old 07-14-2010, 07:06 AM
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Default Offset and Backspace: How do they relate?

Offset and backspace are essentially two different ways of looking at the same thing. They determine the location of the wheel and tire assembly when bolted to the vehicles hub.

Offset is the measured distance between the hub mounting surface and the wheels center line.
With X being the determined offset, the hub mounting surface on positive offset wheels is X amount forward from the wheel center line. The hub mounting surface on negative offset wheels is X amount backwards from the wheel center line. The hub mounting surface on 0 offset wheels is the wheel center line.
Backspacing is the measurement from the hub mounting surface to the back edge of the wheel.

***Typically speaking, the higher the offset/backspace, the more the wheel will tuck inwards towards the suspension or away from the fender. The lower the offset/backspace, the more the wheel will push out away from the suspension or towards the fender.
For Example:

*If the offset on a 9" wide wheel is +12mm, the hub mounting surface will be 12mm forward from the wheels center line. Measuring from the hub mounting surface to the back edge of the wheel, the backspacing is 5.5"

*If the offset on a 9" wide wheel is -12mm, the hub mounting surface would be 12mm towards the back of the wheel from the wheels center line. Measuring from the hub mounting surface to the back edge of the wheel, the backspacing is 4.5"

Here's how to calculate the backspacing using the rim width and offset:

First - add 1" to the rim width and then divide by 2 to find the wheels center line (you have to account for the wheel flange which is why you add 1" to the rim width) . Second - convert the offset which is in millimeters into inches. There is 25.4mm in 1 inch so divide the offset by 25.4. Lastly - add the converted offset to the wheels center line if the offset is positive for the correct backspacing. Subtract the converted offset to the wheels center line if the offset is negative for the correct backspacing.
For Example:

17x9 +12mm offset

*9" rim width + 1" = 10"
*10"/2 = 5" (wheels center line)
*+12mm offset/25.4 = 0.47" (0.50" rounded up)
*0.50" + 5" = 5.50" Backspace


17x9 -12mm offset

*9" rim width + 1" = 10"
*10"/2 = 5" (wheels center line)
*-12mm offset/25.4 = 0.47" (0.50" rounded up)
*0.50" - 5" = 4.50" Backspace

***Please note that the wheels center line is the backspacing for 0 offset wheels.


I hope this helps.

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So, the less the backspacing, the more the wheel will go out, right?
for example, a 10'' rime with 3'' backspace means that the rim will be out 7''?
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Originally Posted by ahmad
So, the less the backspacing, the more the wheel will go out, right?
for example, a 10'' rime with 3'' backspace means that the rim will be out 7''?
The answer I get is 8".

Matt,

Nice presentation.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by ahmad
So, the less the backspacing, the more the wheel will go out, right?
for example, a 10'' rime with 3'' backspace means that the rim will be out 7''?
I'm not sure what you mean by "be out" but I think you might be referring to the front spacing of the wheel. Like ronjenx said, a 10" wide wheel with a 3" BS (-64mm offset) would have 8" of front spacing. Typically speaking, the lower the offset/backspace, the more the wheel will push out towards the fenders or away from the suspension. It all depends on the rim width and offset.


Originally Posted by ronjenx
The answer I get is 8".

Matt,

Nice presentation.
Thanks!
Thank you


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This should be a sticky, or at least included in the faq section for newbies. Seems to be something that comes up every week or two.

Great explanation
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Originally Posted by mjolnir
This should be a sticky, or at least included in the faq section for newbies. Seems to be something that comes up every week or two.

Great explanation
Thank you
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A sticking point that took me a while to get my head around, (which Matt correctly touched upon) was that there is a 1/2" flange (or shoulder) running around the outside of the rim. The mounting point of the tire is on the inside of the flange, but the backspacing is measured to the outside of the flange. Thus, An '8 inch' rim is 8" between the inside edges of the flange, but the wheel is really 9" wide. Thus an 8" wheel with 0 offset (has the wheel mount dead center in the wheel), has a 4 1/2" backspacing, NOT 4". When calculating or converting any other offsets, you need to account for this extra 1/2".

You'd be surprised how many tire / wheel vendors don't understand this.

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Is the net effect of backspacing the same whether it is the rim or the rim plus spacers?This is from my phone so I hope you understand what I am asking
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Originally Posted by Brashanic
Is the net effect of backspacing the same whether it is the rim or the rim plus spacers?This is from my phone so I hope you understand what I am asking
if you are talking about wheel spacers, they will "decrease" backspacing you have on a rim as they will "push out" the center line of the rim away from the vehicle's body.

make sense?
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Originally Posted by jeeperaf
if you are talking about wheel spacers, they will "decrease" backspacing you have on a rim as they will "push out" the center line of the rim away from the vehicle's body.

make sense?
yeah. i was wondering if the leverage on primarily spindle components , knows the difference between spacers or backspacing. i have never understood completely if offset comes into play as to leverage. am i making any sense yet?


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