No Rear Sway Bar Analysis
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On road handling is a little better since the rear axle is able to move around a little easier. In essence, it's like make the spring rate slightly softer.
As for actual handling, you do notice a slight increase in lean. It almost feels like this is how it should come from the factory. If you go into a turn really fast you will feel that the back end does a little bit more movement but nothing to serious.
Now, on the trail. What a difference! You're able to move at a more faster speed if you prefer while maitaining the same amount of comfort in the ride.
Basically, you're not getting tossed around as much since the axle is able to go over and into obstacles a little easier.
Of camber situations might cause some concern but honestly, I didn't feel like I was approaching the limit. This, however could be deceiving so the only way to actually guage this is with an inclinometer. That's in the garage. Still didn't have a chance to install it. Now, what really caught me by surprise, is that with the sway on (stock springs or BB lift), the Jeep seemed a lot more balanced.
When you remove the rear sway, it's just like lowering the spring rate in the back. So technically, the rear will compress a little easier (opposite sides off course). Hence, the front will seem a little stiffer. I've tried this both on the trail and mall crawling flexing and the same thing happened. So I guess this and offcamber situations might be the only drawbacks of having the rear sway off.
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I took mine off my Tj and had a RELA and loved it, Im in the middle of my build right now and was looking at the swaybar yesterday, and as small as it is I cant see that in most driving cases it will be a real big deal.
I dont swerve for deer, to many people panic and run into poles, ditches, and other cars... build a bumper that will take it and head them off at the pass...
Plus, and it is my opinion- I always felt that more flex the better, and if your flexing far enough to dislodge a spring, its time for limiting straps. If you use a shock for limiting flex it wont last long, thats not what they are for. I never have seen a shock pull apart ( but it would be a great vidio ), it will ruin the seals.
On the other side of the coin, all lifts come with extensions, Im not in their R&D so its an assumption, but most manufactures spend alot of time and money in their designs and they probably had them on. If you dont put them on, your more than likely voiding your right to say anything bad about a lift when you break.
I dont swerve for deer, to many people panic and run into poles, ditches, and other cars... build a bumper that will take it and head them off at the pass...
Plus, and it is my opinion- I always felt that more flex the better, and if your flexing far enough to dislodge a spring, its time for limiting straps. If you use a shock for limiting flex it wont last long, thats not what they are for. I never have seen a shock pull apart ( but it would be a great vidio ), it will ruin the seals.
On the other side of the coin, all lifts come with extensions, Im not in their R&D so its an assumption, but most manufactures spend alot of time and money in their designs and they probably had them on. If you dont put them on, your more than likely voiding your right to say anything bad about a lift when you break.
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well it took me a few good wheelin trips but i am happy with my currie anti rock it does sway alot more on the street but on the trail its awesome with that said i just oredered the rear anti rock because i to am a firm beliver that the jeep rides better with a rear sway than with out
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wow, well you are apparently a good enough driver to know how to handle your vehicle and I commend you on that. I'd never run without swaybars either front or back on the road, hard swerve due to idiots pulling out in front of you or the occasional Tiebietan mountain Yak strolling in your lane and without swaybars over your go, the CG is lacking it's stability. You know this, so do most on here, but to each their own.
What would be really cool is if they would have done rear e-discos
What would be really cool is if they would have done rear e-discos
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Well the fact is that vehicles (including Jeeps) came without sway bars for YEARS, front OR rear. Yeah, the JK might be a lot more advanced, blah blah blah, but in the end, it's your Jeep. Do what works for you.
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Actually the JK and TJs required them primarily due to the coil springs and extended sway/flex, older YJs, CJs, army jeeps, yada yada yada didn't need them as much with the leaf spring solid axle rides like a wagon train therefore didn't really need swaybar setups.
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yeah but, you have a budget boost. try that with a true coil lift, longer shocks and control arms that will allow for more articulation and they just might. but, that's a moot point as your sway bars are not designed to keep your coils in place, they are designed to offer stability. What I don't get is that the rear sway bar is made out of such a thin bar compared to the front, I haven't see it prevent or allow for any more flex than if I didn't have mine on at all. I get just as much stuff and max out my existing shocks well before the links could prevent me from more droop. And, with 37" Toyo's mounted on Walker Evan's beadlocks, I almost wish I had a stiffer rear sway bar. Oh well, maybe I'm just crazy
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Yeah, you're spot on. The leaf springs kinda act like two components in one. Even some of them HAD sway bars as well. I'm kinda funny about my stuff. I like leavin it real close to stock. It's harder to improve on a vehicle's design than a lot of folks think.