New AEV CA brackets
#21
#23
I don't get it.
Option 1: Lift with adj. control arms = ability to run bigger tires = increased ground clearance; or,
Option 2: Lift with drop brackets for control arms = ability to run bigger tires = increased ground clearance everwhere but the control arms because you have to drop the brackets down a few inches, essentially negating the gain from larger diameter tires.
Why would option 2 ever be better than option one if you actually wheel the Jeep?
Edit: I'm not trying to be an ass...my question is sincere because I hope to lift my Jeep in near future and I am looking at a variety of options.
Option 1: Lift with adj. control arms = ability to run bigger tires = increased ground clearance; or,
Option 2: Lift with drop brackets for control arms = ability to run bigger tires = increased ground clearance everwhere but the control arms because you have to drop the brackets down a few inches, essentially negating the gain from larger diameter tires.
Why would option 2 ever be better than option one if you actually wheel the Jeep?
Edit: I'm not trying to be an ass...my question is sincere because I hope to lift my Jeep in near future and I am looking at a variety of options.
Last edited by Sharkey; 04-09-2010 at 03:10 PM.
#24
I got the email this morning, and was so excited to see another AEV thread, and here I wait 10 hrs and already got three pages, anyway, always very entertaining to read what people think.
I personally think this is a good solution if off road imacularity, yes i made that word up, is not paramount. 35" daily driver, with trail visits once to four times a month, i just dont see needing more.
I also dont think it is all that overpriced, yes i could do without that....block thing for the jack, but the AEV procal, as well as shocks, and whatever else, I just dont think it's that bad.
Yes if I had my way, and an unlimited bank account, this would definitely not be my first choice, but i just dont think its all that bad.
Also one question, correct me if I am wrong, my assumption was that if bind free movement was the ultimate goal, isnt currie joints all the way around the best option anyway(including the trackbar one too)
I personally think this is a good solution if off road imacularity, yes i made that word up, is not paramount. 35" daily driver, with trail visits once to four times a month, i just dont see needing more.
I also dont think it is all that overpriced, yes i could do without that....block thing for the jack, but the AEV procal, as well as shocks, and whatever else, I just dont think it's that bad.
Yes if I had my way, and an unlimited bank account, this would definitely not be my first choice, but i just dont think its all that bad.
Also one question, correct me if I am wrong, my assumption was that if bind free movement was the ultimate goal, isnt currie joints all the way around the best option anyway(including the trackbar one too)
#25
I ordered a set this morning. I don't need them; I have the JKS arms all the way around. But, for $100 I'll give them a shot. I can always take them off...and besides, I kind of enjoy working on my JK.
I don't care if they're not the first to ever do this or not. I do appreciate the fact that everytime I try an AEV peice I'm pleased.
I'll post up my impressions after the install.
Why hate on some of these manufacturers? If you don't like them, ignore them, and spend your money on what you do like.
I don't care if they're not the first to ever do this or not. I do appreciate the fact that everytime I try an AEV peice I'm pleased.
I'll post up my impressions after the install.
Why hate on some of these manufacturers? If you don't like them, ignore them, and spend your money on what you do like.
#26
Just ask and you shall receive.
I just find it amusing how there is such love/hate relatioship with AEV products between the owners and the non-owners. The lift kit is just that, it has pros and cons just like any other lift kit. The pro's are strong (ride, handling, quality) and so are the cons (price, cam bolts ... erhhh wait the CBs are gone )
The AEV kit is not necessarily better, but it is different in some respects.
I just find it amusing how there is such love/hate relatioship with AEV products between the owners and the non-owners. The lift kit is just that, it has pros and cons just like any other lift kit. The pro's are strong (ride, handling, quality) and so are the cons (price, cam bolts ... erhhh wait the CBs are gone )
The AEV kit is not necessarily better, but it is different in some respects.
AEV acknowledged buyer's reluctance to use cam bolts which required a change in their product line over 6 months ago. I was surprised to receive the email about the brackets because I thought they showed prototypes of adjustable CAs at SEMA.
However, it is not surprising that they created the brackets because an assortment of geometry correcting and tuning brackets has always been the signature (and much of the value) of the Nth Degree lift kits. The original TJ kit was a nightmare of stamped pieces of sheet metal that needed to be installed.
The brackets will reduce ground clearance but so do some long arm kits. The proof is left as an exercise to the reader .
The AEV kit is not as expensive as many of the high end kits (not the ultra high end like EVO), but it does not include many of the parts like adjustable CAs that are included in those kits, so the relative price is perceived as high.
It's all goodness. We are fortunate to have many good options for the JK.
Last edited by wayoflife; 04-09-2010 at 05:02 PM.
#27
Technically, it doesn't correct caster, it just bring your suspension geometry back closer to stock so that caster correction isn't needed.
dropping the mounting points will do a good job of bringing your suspension closer to stock and this will provide good handling and ride comfort on pavement. this is a critical element of the aev kit as they are always touting how great their kit will corner and run a slalom course. on the rocks, it is a liability but IMHO, a better option than cam bolts like they use to use.
I don't get it.
Option 1: Lift with adj. control arms = ability to run bigger tires = increased ground clearance; or,
Option 2: Lift with drop brackets for control arms = ability to run bigger tires = increased ground clearance everwhere but the control arms because you have to drop the brackets down a few inches, essentially negating the gain from larger diameter tires.
Why would option 2 ever be better than option one if you actually wheel the Jeep?
Edit: I'm not trying to be an ass...my question is sincere because I hope to lift my Jeep in near future and I am looking at a variety of options.
Option 1: Lift with adj. control arms = ability to run bigger tires = increased ground clearance; or,
Option 2: Lift with drop brackets for control arms = ability to run bigger tires = increased ground clearance everwhere but the control arms because you have to drop the brackets down a few inches, essentially negating the gain from larger diameter tires.
Why would option 2 ever be better than option one if you actually wheel the Jeep?
Edit: I'm not trying to be an ass...my question is sincere because I hope to lift my Jeep in near future and I am looking at a variety of options.
Last edited by wayoflife; 04-09-2010 at 04:56 PM.
#28
please, nobody i know "hates" some of these manufacturers. in fact, i think the real question that needs to be asked is why do all the fanboys of these companies hate on those who tell the truth? certainly, up until now, i've had people hate on me just because i would point out that the use of cam bolts was a mistake, they would accuse me of attacking this company just because they weren't sponsors and of course now, these companies are in agreement with me - go figure.
Last edited by wayoflife; 04-09-2010 at 04:55 PM.
#29
No hatin, just debatin. Kinda like the cambolt threads. Me personally , I don't think the brackets are a good idea. Stepping stones and cheaper ways of correcting things are another way of reaching customers and another avenue of income which alot of companies do. We live in the want it right now world of can I get this much X lift by paying the least amount of $. When in reality most of us who piecemeal a lift because of $$ end up getting the correct products in the end and spend more $$. I do think AEV was late getting their lift out and marketed it as being higher end than it really is, not knocking them, just my opinion. In the end all that matters is what the customer wants and or likes and is willing to compromise on. Those brackets, just as cambolts , are a cheaper solution to a problem that is easily corrected by adj. CA's. I'm constantly looking to improve my jk, making mistakes on spending $$$ that I ended up spending more on later and just try to pass on what I've learned about purchases from various manufacturer's. Plus I tend to stir the pot occasionally. That is all......for now..... until we have another RE bushing thread anyway.