My thoughts on lifts
#211
JK Jedi
Thread Starter
Really, you post up on my thread that I am wrong because you made the assumption that I only rock crawl and don't how different wheeling is in the midwest and out east. You make an assumption that makes no sense by saying the axle are fine as an anchor but the belly somehow keeps you from wheeling in the mud. You state there are no rocks in MI? You tell me how bad rock crawling is but have never done it. You want a rig that will keep up with others that are built up but you don't want to put bigger tires on because of the expense of re-gearing and are worried about a $79 carrier on a $1500 job. You claim in one statement that you get hung up on the frame in deep mud then in another that you just run in the woods to hunt and fish.
From your other post you clearly don't know how to drive properly off road and could use the experience. I have almost 30 years in the heavy highway construction field and have played in the dirt and mud and have an understanding of many different terrains from solid rock to bottomless mud pits. I have wheeled sand, mud, rocks, and trails from Tennessee to California.
As far as being a know it all dick, read my profile. I am direct with my answers and I do truley love to be told "how it is" by a 18-20 year olds that lives with mom and dad and admittly doesn't have a clue about off road or how to set up an off road vehicle. That and it was Friday night and I can get a bit mean when I have had a couple of beers.
Once you come up with an idea of what you actually want out of your jeep, which I have not seen clearly defined, it will be a lot easier to help you come up with a plan.
Good luck with your build and have a good day.
From your other post you clearly don't know how to drive properly off road and could use the experience. I have almost 30 years in the heavy highway construction field and have played in the dirt and mud and have an understanding of many different terrains from solid rock to bottomless mud pits. I have wheeled sand, mud, rocks, and trails from Tennessee to California.
As far as being a know it all dick, read my profile. I am direct with my answers and I do truley love to be told "how it is" by a 18-20 year olds that lives with mom and dad and admittly doesn't have a clue about off road or how to set up an off road vehicle. That and it was Friday night and I can get a bit mean when I have had a couple of beers.
Once you come up with an idea of what you actually want out of your jeep, which I have not seen clearly defined, it will be a lot easier to help you come up with a plan.
Good luck with your build and have a good day.
#212
This has been coming a long time- Dirtman gets called a (dick, troll, know-it-all, etc) because his opinion and experience doesn't match what someone wants to hear. It's ok, he gets it all the time. It's just funny that someone with $11k, college paid for, good job, etc wouldn't push the limit and get some 33's. With that kind of cash you could buy a samurai and beat the hell out of it for next to nothing. I've made my bed and now lay in it- atv for mud and rocks, jk for DD. No complaints from me about anything.
#213
Really, you post up on my thread that I am wrong because you made the assumption that I only rock crawl and don't how different wheeling is in the midwest and out east. You make an assumption that makes no sense by saying the axle are fine as an anchor but the belly somehow keeps you from wheeling in the mud. You state there are no rocks in MI? You tell me how bad rock crawling is but have never done it. You want a rig that will keep up with others that are built up but you don't want to put bigger tires on because of the expense of re-gearing and are worried about a $79 carrier on a $1500 job. You claim in one statement that you get hung up on the frame in deep mud then in another that you just run in the woods to hunt and fish. From your other post you clearly don't know how to drive properly off road and could use the experience. I have almost 30 years in the heavy highway construction field and have played in the dirt and mud and have an understanding of many different terrains from solid rock to bottomless mud pits. I have wheeled sand, mud, rocks, and trails from Tennessee to California. As far as being a know it all dick, read my profile. I am direct with my answers and I do truley love to be told "how it is" by a 18-20 year olds that lives with mom and dad and admittly doesn't have a clue about off road or how to set up an off road vehicle. That and it was Friday night and I can get a bit mean when I have had a couple of beers. Once you come up with an idea of what you actually want out of your jeep, which I have not seen clearly defined, it will be a lot easier to help you come up with a plan. Good luck with your build and have a good day.
#216
This is getting better than that show my wife use to watch. What was it called? I think it was some thing like Melrose Platt??? Melrose Space??? IDK, Melrose something........ Btw, if I were choosing sides, I'm with the Dirtman. I think he's my father.
Last edited by Jeepstin12; 02-01-2014 at 12:51 PM.
#217
JK Super Freak
Let's say someone lifts 5 feet high and runs 32" wheels and he's into a mud pit that swallows the axels and stops the rig. The axels are anchors but the frame is clean and dry.
#218
JK Jedi
I remember when I was 20yoa I knew everything too especially after a few beers, if only people would have listened to me there would be world peas and hominy....
#220
JK Enthusiast
Mike, perhaps its not clear to you where you will in fact see the most performance gain for your vehicle, in any terrain. Its tires. You would be better off all around with bigger tires. It doesn't matter if you rock crawl, drive through, mud, snow or fire roads, bigger tires is where its at. Now lets be real for a moment. You would certainly see a benefit from a small suspension lift and your current tires but, its not going to be as much of a benefit as bigger tires and no suspension lift. So if you want to go spend 180 bucks on a budget boost and that makes you happy do it, but I think you will find that happiness is short lived.