Most articulation - what matters?
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First let me say your going to get a lot of different opinions but here's mine. How about the Off Road Evolution system...we are running a hybrid version of it with their King Coil Overs up front and rear enforcer Kings with 2.5 and it's awesome combination both on road and off road! It's a 4" lift that will allow you to run 37's. Check out the link there are plenty of combinations of that set up to look at. The articulation is awesome allowing you to feel more comfortable to take on bigger challenges. Just my
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The thing about a 2-live axle, control arm set up, is that it's all about geometry, and weight transfer.
What I mean by this is, just because a system has the most flex, doesn't mean that it has the best traction. And traction is the key, which is ultimately, how much of the weight of the vehicle can you move with the available contact points. What I'm trying to say is, if you have a rig that has poor geometry, but great articulation means that you're placing full load on less contact points. Meaning, just cause it's touching, doesn't mean it matters.
I'm not going to give you my opinion on what the best lift is out of fear of plugging some else's company, I just wanted you to know, you have to research and discern on your own
What I mean by this is, just because a system has the most flex, doesn't mean that it has the best traction. And traction is the key, which is ultimately, how much of the weight of the vehicle can you move with the available contact points. What I'm trying to say is, if you have a rig that has poor geometry, but great articulation means that you're placing full load on less contact points. Meaning, just cause it's touching, doesn't mean it matters.
I'm not going to give you my opinion on what the best lift is out of fear of plugging some else's company, I just wanted you to know, you have to research and discern on your own
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The thing about a 2-live axle, control arm set up, is that it's all about geometry, and weight transfer.
What I mean by this is, just because a system has the most flex, doesn't mean that it has the best traction. And traction is the key, which is ultimately, how much of the weight of the vehicle can you move with the available contact points. What I'm trying to say is, if you have a rig that has poor geometry, but great articulation means that you're placing full load on less contact points. Meaning, just cause it's touching, doesn't mean it matters.
I'm not going to give you my opinion on what the best lift is out of fear of plugging some else's company, I just wanted you to know, you have to research and discern on your own
What I mean by this is, just because a system has the most flex, doesn't mean that it has the best traction. And traction is the key, which is ultimately, how much of the weight of the vehicle can you move with the available contact points. What I'm trying to say is, if you have a rig that has poor geometry, but great articulation means that you're placing full load on less contact points. Meaning, just cause it's touching, doesn't mean it matters.
I'm not going to give you my opinion on what the best lift is out of fear of plugging some else's company, I just wanted you to know, you have to research and discern on your own
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2h-qBU5Xhg i just wanted you to know - you have to research and discern on your own
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Originally Posted by wayoflife
you'll forgive me but... what you're saying make absolutely no sense at all. keeping all 4 on the floor WILL give you traction as well as stability and big flex will allow you to do just that. a LACK of flex will cause you to hang tires and a tire in the air won't do jack for you.
YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2h-qBU5Xhg
i just wanted you to know - you have to research and discern on your own
It wasn't me really wanting a company plugged but more trying to figure out what attributes to a good suspension setup. I'd rather piece together a kit I think is the best then buy a pre made kit, unless it really is that much better. I'm new to suspension stuff, but I'm pretty 'mechanically inclined' I guess you could say. More than just beating shit with a hammer till it works. Haha. But.. From what I've read a long arm won't gain me as much as someone with a 5+ in lift would.. Its not off the table but I'm considering everything. And the only reason I was wondering about moving the axle back was it looked a little forward, gotta trim anyway for the 37s but it just looked off.
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i think, an correct me if i'm wrong, that the best way to go is a coil over kit. you can agjust your ride hight to give you the low COG, but it should flex the same whether it is setup for the most height or the least. correct?
The ORE kt gives something like 3-6 inches of lift, so it it was set up for 3 inches, is should still flex the same as if it was set up of 6 inches right, just less upward wheel travel but the opposite wheel would droop forever!
The ORE kt gives something like 3-6 inches of lift, so it it was set up for 3 inches, is should still flex the same as if it was set up of 6 inches right, just less upward wheel travel but the opposite wheel would droop forever!
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From what I've read a long arm won't gain me as much as someone with a 5+ in lift would.. Its not off the table but I'm considering everything. And the only reason I was wondering about moving the axle back was it looked a little forward, gotta trim anyway for the 37s but it just looked off.
as far as moving your axle back goes, there's only so much you can push it back (very little in fact especially on a 2-door) as doing so will cause your coils to hit the track bar.
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i think, an correct me if i'm wrong, that the best way to go is a coil over kit. you can agjust your ride hight to give you the low COG, but it should flex the same whether it is setup for the most height or the least. correct?
The ORE kt gives something like 3-6 inches of lift, so it it was set up for 3 inches, is should still flex the same as if it was set up of 6 inches right, just less upward wheel travel but the opposite wheel would droop forever!
The ORE kt gives something like 3-6 inches of lift, so it it was set up for 3 inches, is should still flex the same as if it was set up of 6 inches right, just less upward wheel travel but the opposite wheel would droop forever!
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Consider the OME Long Travel Suspension with HD Coils.
I have a bunch of pictures on my Two Door running 35's.
I have gone out a few times since installing the kit and I have never once flexed it out to the max, since I'm not disconnecting sway bars at this point in time.
Consider the OME Long Travel Suspension with HD Coils.
I have a bunch of pictures on my Two Door running 35's.
I have gone out a few times since installing the kit and I have never once flexed it out to the max, since I'm not disconnecting sway bars at this point in time.
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but you can have both the flex and the low cog with coil overs right?