Mod Suggestions - Ride Quality
01-10-2011, 08:07 PM
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There are lots of factors involved, but yes, people are losing driveshafts with as little as 2.5". (total lift height, 2door or 4door, auto or manual, axle re-centered or shifted to the side, disconnected or not, shorter shocks or longer travel, etc)
In general:
-2doors have more issues with rear shafts than 4doors
-Auto's have more issues with front shafts than manuals
-Disconnecting let's the axle drop further
-Front axle being offset is better than centered (driveshaft/tranny clearance on auto's)
-Shorter shocks reduce the amount of axle droop.
etc...
In general:
-2doors have more issues with rear shafts than 4doors
-Auto's have more issues with front shafts than manuals
-Disconnecting let's the axle drop further
-Front axle being offset is better than centered (driveshaft/tranny clearance on auto's)
-Shorter shocks reduce the amount of axle droop.
etc...
01-10-2011, 08:36 PM
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Actually some of that will make it worse. If you have longer shocks it will allow the axel to droop more and thus tear the boot. Regardless if you all that what is a few hundred for a drive shaft?
01-10-2011, 08:56 PM
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All this talk of ruining drive shafts with 3'' lifts has me a bit scared. I have a 2 door x with a 3.5 inch suspension lift with bilstein shocks with 33s am i in danger of breaking a drive shaft?
01-10-2011, 09:37 PM
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I fully suggest the 2.5 BB (teraflex or Rough Country-w/ their 2.2 shocks)... I run 33 w/ the RC set-up for 3 years, and wheel pretty good an have had no issues; this goes for the highway as well.. I think my on road handling actually got a bit better...I am going to go to 35s and will not have to add anymore lift... Plenty of room.. I just have to work on the power issues... Chip first, then regear....
01-10-2011, 09:58 PM
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One thing I forgot to add to the list above is ... luck...
All you can do is take a good look at your specific setup, factor in how and where you drive, and start making some educated guesses. But my opinion, a 2door with 3.5+ inches is on borrowed time where the driveshafts are concerned...
01-11-2011, 08:11 PM
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Would these driveshafts be ideal for a 2.5-3" lift on a 2-door auto?
J.E. Reel Front 1310 HD
http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?partID=5649
J.E. Reel Rear 1310 HD
http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.as...12&partID=5647
J.E. Reel Front 1310 HD
http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?partID=5649
J.E. Reel Rear 1310 HD
http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.as...12&partID=5647
01-11-2011, 08:22 PM
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Listen very carefully, get a coil leveling kit from teraflex, a set of spidertrak spacers, and 285 75 16's. Your suspencen will work great, you can keep your shocks and, you wont need to regear nor, will your gas mileage be affected.
keep it simple stupid...the kiss method
keep it simple stupid...the kiss method
01-12-2011, 02:21 PM
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I pick up my Black 2011 Wrangler Unlimited Sport S Wednesday. It comes with the 255/75/R17 tires. It will be a Daily Driver for me, 80% of my driving is on the highway at interstate speeds so ride is important. I do not get to wheel that often. My goal is to get some tires that are 33 or 35 inches (still deciding as I do not wheel much and it being a daily driver and all), without killing the ride quality and MPG. I understand it will drop but not looking to tank it completely. I will be going with Duratracs and 16 inch wheels. Here is what I am thinking of doing, and would like some feedback if what I have in mind is necessary/good choices.
Option 1:
Add Teraflex Coil Based Leveling Kit - Seems as though the only down side to this is that I cannot fit 35s if I ever chose to, seems as though the ride quality is unchanged, no shocks needed, and you get ~1.5 inches of lift.
Option 2:
Get a cheaper 2.5 inch coil lift eg. RC 2.5. - From what I have read the ride quality is diminished a decent amount so this may not really be an option for me
Option 3:
Get a TF 2.5" coil lift with extensions (or BB instead) - I have not found much information on ride quality with this lift, but it would be somewhat inexpensive (~$450) and would fit 35s down the road...any feedback on the ride quality?
Option 4:
Go full out and get the TF 2.5" Coil lift with shocks - I have read that the ride is more stiff. Is it bad for a daily driver? Would it look right with 33s? This seems to fit all my criteria, but it is the most expensive option.
If a gear change would be necessary I would abandon these changes. Although I have found some info posted by "TEEJ" that seems to think some of the posts talking about regearing for 35s may be somewhat overblown (https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...l=1#post480747). How does everyone feel about that? Was hoping I could just get a superchips and be done with it.
Thanks
Option 1:
Add Teraflex Coil Based Leveling Kit - Seems as though the only down side to this is that I cannot fit 35s if I ever chose to, seems as though the ride quality is unchanged, no shocks needed, and you get ~1.5 inches of lift.
Option 2:
Get a cheaper 2.5 inch coil lift eg. RC 2.5. - From what I have read the ride quality is diminished a decent amount so this may not really be an option for me
Option 3:
Get a TF 2.5" coil lift with extensions (or BB instead) - I have not found much information on ride quality with this lift, but it would be somewhat inexpensive (~$450) and would fit 35s down the road...any feedback on the ride quality?
Option 4:
Go full out and get the TF 2.5" Coil lift with shocks - I have read that the ride is more stiff. Is it bad for a daily driver? Would it look right with 33s? This seems to fit all my criteria, but it is the most expensive option.
If a gear change would be necessary I would abandon these changes. Although I have found some info posted by "TEEJ" that seems to think some of the posts talking about regearing for 35s may be somewhat overblown (https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/show...l=1#post480747). How does everyone feel about that? Was hoping I could just get a superchips and be done with it.
Thanks
So, If you plan on running bumpers, but no winch, would you need the HD coils? Or would the standard do?
Lets say, 33s, with the option to go to 35s, front and rear bumpers, soft top, 4dr, auto.
01-13-2011, 02:46 AM
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The OME kit is great but probably gives even more lift than the 2 1/2 inch TeraFlex lift. Then your back to control arms and track bars. They will cost more than the lift and on a daily driver that spends any time at 65mph + you are going to want them.
I think anything bigger than the TeraFlex spring leveling kit can turn into a slippery slope, just my humble, uninformed opinion. CM
I think anything bigger than the TeraFlex spring leveling kit can turn into a slippery slope, just my humble, uninformed opinion. CM