MetalCloak Game Changer 6Pak
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JK Junkie
The track bar tower is really more of a skyscraper...
#52
JK Enthusiast
If you see 6k your looking at it wrong.. As i said it depends on people and there use, but it is an option. Not all jks are 40k now days... Some are getting older. Is a buggy a better bet for some yes, but a jk built up can still have some practicality in everyday life depending how its done. Personally i dont look at my time as money as its something i like doing and learning about, consider it free hands on learning. I guarantee down the road when jks are much older you will see way more diy/ custom built jks. I never said this is for everyone and he needs to do it. Just another thing someone could look at. You guys make it seem like im forcing him to do it.
#53
JK Jedi
Dont get me wrong I completely understand where you are coming from and do not disagree in the least. My point was just that I think a very large majority of people on the forums are perhaps not experienced enough or have the skills required to do custom work and are not looking to use their vehicle to experiment on.
#54
This is an example of what I think is "wrong" with other set ups. Notice the rear tire is already a max up travel and is lifting the front tire off the ground. Sorry if I am picking on somebodys build here...I just picked this off an old post of somebodys <img src="https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=527776"/>
Just kiddin...that jeep has to have his links connected.
#55
Hey everyone, I have a 2013 2 door Rubicon. It's getting some major mods starting with a new suspension system shortly. I was pretty much set on RK until I started looking into the MetalCloak Game Changer. I would like people's experience with the kit as I haven't found a ton of feed back on it.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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Hey everyone,
Just want to help out the OP on this. I have slowly bought my MC lite kit one piece at a time. So I can tell you that the arms are aweomse, and provide way more flex than a mid arm kit should. They also give you a slightly smoother ride as well. I eventually plan to go with the 6pack shock as well, but that will come with a few more paychecks.
But I do want to touch upon what everyone is saying about this kit. It does give crazy travel, but that is up travel as well. I think this is a good idea since tons of down travel causes things to bind and possibly fail. The other great think about the MC Game Changer kit is that it is all inclusive. If you're looking for something bolt on and you're looking at about 4k, a lot of people mention the Off Road Evo or Rebel coilover kits. Sure they are the same price as a MC GC kit, but you don't get arms and all that. Just food for thought.
Curious what kind of ride you would get with Metal Cloak's duraflex arms and custom coilovers....
Just want to help out the OP on this. I have slowly bought my MC lite kit one piece at a time. So I can tell you that the arms are aweomse, and provide way more flex than a mid arm kit should. They also give you a slightly smoother ride as well. I eventually plan to go with the 6pack shock as well, but that will come with a few more paychecks.
But I do want to touch upon what everyone is saying about this kit. It does give crazy travel, but that is up travel as well. I think this is a good idea since tons of down travel causes things to bind and possibly fail. The other great think about the MC Game Changer kit is that it is all inclusive. If you're looking for something bolt on and you're looking at about 4k, a lot of people mention the Off Road Evo or Rebel coilover kits. Sure they are the same price as a MC GC kit, but you don't get arms and all that. Just food for thought.
Curious what kind of ride you would get with Metal Cloak's duraflex arms and custom coilovers....
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3.5" MC Lite pics from the side with level ground (Rake?)
Can someone speak as to the rake still remaining on their unlimited after installing the 3.5". I communicated with mattgt5 a good bit during my research of this lift before purchasing and he was very helpful and I appreciate all of his feedback. Exactly what I was looking for in this forum, thanks Matt! I am going to be running the ARB edition with stock fenders. I will be adding coil spacers and I am trying to determine which height front and back to order. Matt's picture from the side shows a factory rake which would mean a taller spacer on the front than the rear by 3/4 to 1 " to get the JK unlimited to level. But I have seen other JK''s that have the MC 3.5" and they look to be level for the most part. Just looking for any pictures or feedback I can get that illustrates this so I can order what I need. It may be different vehicle to vehicle and just wanting to do the install once.. I will be running the AEV front with Warn Zeon 10s and the Shrockworks rear with tire carrier and 37' MTR Kevlars in case someone wants to know what weight I will have. Thanks for any help and pics from the side on level ground.
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Can someone speak as to the rake still remaining on their unlimited after installing the 3.5". I communicated with mattgt5 a good bit during my research of this lift before purchasing and he was very helpful and I appreciate all of his feedback. Exactly what I was looking for in this forum, thanks Matt! I am going to be running the ARB edition with stock fenders. I will be adding coil spacers and I am trying to determine which height front and back to order. Matt's picture from the side shows a factory rake which would mean a taller spacer on the front than the rear by 3/4 to 1 " to get the JK unlimited to level. But I have seen other JK''s that have the MC 3.5" and they look to be level for the most part. Just looking for any pictures or feedback I can get that illustrates this so I can order what I need. It may be different vehicle to vehicle and just wanting to do the install once.. I will be running the AEV front with Warn Zeon 10s and the Shrockworks rear with tire carrier and 37' MTR Kevlars in case someone wants to know what weight I will have. Thanks for any help and pics from the side on level ground.
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Glad I could help you out. According to MC they intend to leave a .5" rake when their kit is installed. My picture is a little deceiving as it is uphill. I am level with the ace carrier and the heavy spare. I think that if you put a 1/4" more in the front than east you would level out but not more than that. Mine looks flat right now with no winch.
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You see incorrect. Check the specs on the 6 pak shocks. The travel is longer than your standard shock. They are available in 12" 14" and 16". There is also an on road performance and ride quality aspect to them, per MC. Check my last statement.
Also, who is validating their purchase, me or you? The guy asked for feedback on the kit I'm running. You're not running it so how can you comment? Your response was your RK kit can go anywhere the GC can. Have you proven this theory? Have you wheeled both and completed and failed the same obstacles in both? I am not and see no reason to defend what I buy to anyone. $1400 may be a big deal to you, it may be a big deal to the OP, it may be to me. The point is that it's not up to you to call something a waste of someone else's money. He may have more than you and me combined, who knows.
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Also, who is validating their purchase, me or you? The guy asked for feedback on the kit I'm running. You're not running it so how can you comment? Your response was your RK kit can go anywhere the GC can. Have you proven this theory? Have you wheeled both and completed and failed the same obstacles in both? I am not and see no reason to defend what I buy to anyone. $1400 may be a big deal to you, it may be a big deal to the OP, it may be to me. The point is that it's not up to you to call something a waste of someone else's money. He may have more than you and me combined, who knows.
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I'm looking at this from outside of the JK box. While I admire the engineering of the 6-PAC shocks, I can't justify the expense. Wheel long enough, with enough people with shocks that bolt below the axle center line and you'll occasionally break shocks. It makes sense to me that you want to run fairly inexpensive stuff if it's going to hang that low and be susceptible to trail damage. I guess if you don't see rocks it wouldn't be a problem. I only wheel in rocks, so I have a bias perspective.
Also, it's a rather complex unit. I'm being speculative, but usually complex things have more problems than simple things. Each 6-PAC is like 4 shocks in one. It's also not a reservoir shock, so fade would be a concern of mine as well, if you run them fast anyway. My biggest concern with Metal Cloak, at this time, is long reported turn around times. It takes at least a month in most cases for them to fill an order. I'd be worried I wreck a shock, spend $75 plus shipping to send it in and be without a shock for a month. All in all, that's an expensive gamble, and I'm not the gambling type.
The max I could justify spending on a bot on kit is in the $1,500 range. Not because it's a fixed dollar amount, but because it is about all you need to get the JK to around 90% of its capability on stock mount locations. I don't think squeezing the extra little bit of travel the six pack game changer kit offers is worth the extra $2,500. I had 16" travel shocks on my K5 with leaf springs and I made use of all of it. It's an economies of scale thing. For that extra $2,500 you can put that money elsewhere and increase your capability further, such as larger tires.