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Old 01-31-2014 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Maertz
dont get me wrong there shocks are nice, but shocks to me should not be included in lift kits. You should measure once the kits installed and your bumps are set to the correct tire size/ fenders then order shocks accordingly, or else 90% of the time there will be unused travel.
Agree with this as well. In my case, I have the ability to adjust my setup to maximize the travel (new wheels with ideal backspacing, etc.).

I try to stress the point that you do have to follow the "rules" for the 6Pak shocks to make sense. No Overlines? Don't do it. Don't have wheels with <4" of back space? Don't do it. Running greater than 37"? Don't do it - unless you are cool with cutting the tub.
Old 01-31-2014 | 06:48 AM
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Yeah, that statement I have to agree with. I suggested just that when I ordered mine, and they gave me a package discount plus free shipping Not quite 4k, but I was under 5k with Game Changer, front/rear Overlines and Exoskin.

To be fair, I spent months doing research on lifts as I was sick of throwing good money after bad. I was torn between coilovers and the GC. I decided that if I was going to do coilovers, I was going to stretch the rear at the same time to make it worth while. I just don't have the fab skills to do that right and can't bring myself to pay a ton of money to have someone do it (and I have a rule that if I can't do the work myself, then I shouldn't have the product).

If I had your fab skills, it may have been a different outcome. However, I wouldn't have the time, which is why the GC worked out best.

I'll abuse it this year and will follow up with unbiased reports. If it sucks, I'll sell it and move on!
See to me thats a better deal. I hear ya man, I would have done alot different if I would have done more research and been more confident. I still kick myself looking at what I spent on trying different things and what I could have spent to just do it right myself, but hey thats part of learning. I dont have great fab skills like some guys on here and am still learning, but im not affraid to cut the crap out of it or chance messing it up. Im not saying there kits better or worse than others just showing light on another side that to me is not discussed much on this forum. Wasnt trying to get anyone all pissed off.
Old 01-31-2014 | 06:52 AM
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I run the MC 6 packs on a hodge podge of other lift stuff. I started with a RK 2.5 Max Travel, changed the lower control arms to the Teraflex (rubbing issues with RK). I then changed to the MC 3.5 springs for a little more lift. The shocks came somewhere in the middle.

I think the bigger issue that is needs to be discussed is “TRAVEL”. We spend all this money on lifts and then install bump stop to stop or limit travel. If you are prepared to take a knife to your fenders or buy aftermarket fenders then you are in the 2% of jeeps out there than can handle longer travel.

The MC 6packs allow you to remove almost all of your bump stop’s and allow the travel to go all the way UP and DOWN. I always am amazed when I see Jeeps being lifted with forklifts or on a ramp and they start lifting other tires off the ground before the tire is a max stuff in the wheel well (That is because of limited travel due to the bump stops). In most cases you have to run 3-4 inches of bump stop to stop the travel from crushing the shocks on compression (or rubbing like mad on your fenders). The MC 6packs do not have this issue while still giving you a longer shock so you do not have to limit down travel either.

As for the discussion of the Coil Overs I can only speak from my own experience. My Jeep has been a “project” that has grown over time. If I was starting with a clean slate or an unlimited budget all at once I would have considered the Coil Over option. But that was not the issue with me. My build was done over a 2-3 year process.

One other issue you need to be aware of is the MC 6packs are going to require maintenance. I believe this is the issue with all “exotic” shocks. You will need to get them recharged from time to time (this can be done locally in most instances) and sent back to MC for a rebuild over time (Much Cheaper than new shocks) so be prepared to PAY if you are going to PLAY!!

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Old 01-31-2014 | 06:57 AM
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Recharge here ran me $20. Had to do one. Rebuild at MC is $70 per shock, per MC. As info.

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Old 01-31-2014 | 06:57 AM
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this isnt really a big deal, but using a drag link flip and the mc kit/fenders can negate alot of there travel aswell.
Old 01-31-2014 | 07:03 AM
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This is an example of what I think is "wrong" with other set ups.

Notice the rear tire is already a max up travel and is lifting the front tire off the ground.

Sorry if I am picking on somebody’s build here...I just picked this off an old post of somebody’s


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Old 01-31-2014 | 07:08 AM
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MC will tell you not to use a flip DL. I asked that question Tuesday when I ordered their tie rod.

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Old 01-31-2014 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mattgt5
MC will tell you not to use a flip DL. I asked that question Tuesday when I ordered their tie rod.

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yup they negate the need somewhat with there really tall rear track bar bracket. I personally think on 35-37s though and that angle it can be a little harder on a already crappy stock steering box.

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Old 01-31-2014 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Maertz
yup they negate the need somewhat with there really tall rear track bar bracket. I personally think on 35-37s though and that angle it can be a little harder on a stock steering box.
Yes. I've been researching steering options just in case I have an issue. Nothing to worry about yet but it is a diff approach from what other companies do.

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Old 01-31-2014 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by mattgt5
Yes. I've been researching steering options just in case I have an issue. Nothing to worry about yet but it is a diff approach from what other companies do.

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agreed, but i dont think its a big deal. hell even with a drag link flip and only 35s my steering box leaks slightly after a hard day wheeling.


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