MetalCloak Game Changer 6Pak
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I think what Maertz is driving at is the price. Getting into the $4k price territory kind of puts you in this wasted money limbo purgatory. You could spend half that on a decent RK kit and go all the same places as the six pack game changer kit. Spending the extra scratch doesn't get you any further down the trail. And if your going to get into $4k territory, you might as well start thinking realistically about coil overs and a custom suspension. And if you don't need anything that extreme, then you don't need a $4k bolt on suspension. Spend $2k or less on bolt on stuff, then spend the rest on something else. Armor, tires, whatever.
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I appreciate everyone's input. I just wanted to hear some opinions on the kit as there isn't a lot on it. Even the MetalCloak thread doesn't have much as it cover their whole line of products. We are all on the same team here lol its not a pissing match.
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If this is a derail I apologize but I would be interested in seeing the price breakout for this with manufacturers of said components or how you are arriving at this.
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just so happens there sitting on my work bench i looked into all of this yesterday as i was angry with my build.
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It's a good thing we have this forum to decide how to spend some one else's money. Would hate for a guy to be able to make his own informed decision about what is and is not a waste of his money. As far as I can see, the only people offering up alternatives are people who don't have a MC lift. Is it the most efficient use of. $4k? Maybe for him, maybe not. It didn't cost me $4k. I paid $3400 installed but I got in early. As for offroad, coil overs will beat it I'm sure. I priced out coil overs and my quotes were all around $5500. On road this kit blows away any RK kit I've ridden in and that was important to me. This kit was the best option I could find for my needs and I'm glad I bought it. Are the 6 paks really necessary or are they a waste of money? Couldn't tell you as I've never ridden in an ARB edition. But for me, an extra $700 wasn't a big deal.
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I actually work at a Chrysler dealership as a salesman. I have had a couple in the past that I have modded and sold. My current set up is a 2.5" Rubicon Express, fox shocks, warn bumper, winch, ace rock sliders, and upgraded tires. The gamechanger caught my eye as it is bolt on, not something that is going to void warranty or is out of grasp for people financing their new vehicle and mods all at once. Maybe I have bought into their marketing but it does look like it has some serious flex and capability. Although I'm not currently rolling on 40s with Dana 60s underneath I have been designated as the guy to see at our dealership about jeeps. It looks like an excellent piece of engineering and something that would be unique to showcase. Some people on here are going to look at it as a waste of money but for me it makes money, it's my bread and butter. Jeeps are all about customization as everyone knows, and for someone to be able to walk onto our lot and actually see one that has a few scars on it and some cool additions it goes along way for us. It actually helps our service department as well as we are extremely mod friendly and do everything we can to service our clients vehicles as cost effective as possible. Believe it or not we are not all deemed as "stealerships", yes we are out to make money but we are here to help.
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It's a good thing we have this forum to decide how to spend some one else's money. Would hate for a guy to be able to make his own informed decision about what is and is not a waste of his money. As far as I can see, the only people offering up alternatives are people who don't have a MC lift. Is it the most efficient use of. $4k? Maybe for him, maybe not. It didn't cost me $4k. I paid $3400 installed but I got in early. As for offroad, coil overs will beat it I'm sure. I priced out coil overs and my quotes were all around $5500. On road this kit blows away any RK kit I've ridden in and that was important to me. This kit was the best option I could find for my needs and I'm glad I bought it. Are the 6 paks really necessary or are they a waste of money? Couldn't tell you as I've never ridden in an ARB edition. But for me, an extra $700 wasn't a big deal.
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99% of people are not interested in turning their jeep into an experiment as far as buying or making a bunch of random parts to fabricate a suspension, especially when it involves cutting, bending and welding. Thats not taking anything away from the guy who wants to do that but its not even of interest to most folks. I am seeing closer to $6k on Maertz build sheets by the time its all said and done and then even if you were a master welder/ fabricator with years of suspension engineering under you belt, what do you value your time at?
The frankebuild jeeps can be a fun experiment but in my experience most dudes who have a little bit of knowledge and experience and are trying to save a buck are their own worst enemy. I do applaud the effort and the desire to do this stuff yourself its just most people dont want to take their $40k jeep and turn it into a autoshop project in their garage. Buy a buggy.
The frankebuild jeeps can be a fun experiment but in my experience most dudes who have a little bit of knowledge and experience and are trying to save a buck are their own worst enemy. I do applaud the effort and the desire to do this stuff yourself its just most people dont want to take their $40k jeep and turn it into a autoshop project in their garage. Buy a buggy.