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Old 07-08-2009 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bostonMA
This is true if you use the same material. However, may small holes will be able to filter better with more flow than a few bigger holes. The “holes” are how the air gets through the fiber media.

Certain oil filters are capable of filtering out smaller particles without reducing flow. This is accomplished through the use of synthetic fibers.
You have been duped by the aftermarket filter industry. I feel for you. No wait....no I don't.
Old 07-08-2009 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RedneckJeep
Of course K&N has bad filtration. Any fool knows to flow more air, you have to flow more dirt.
K&N doesn't get more air through by being more porous, they get more air through by increasing the surface area with more folds in the filter element.

This debate has ranged on for years and even the big boy paper filter companies have given in and joined the game. What's left in the wake is all the lies and half truths told of oiled air filters.
Old 07-08-2009 | 06:16 AM
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Nothing against K&N, but as a rule I dont use them. Maybe from the days I had my 03 Cobra. I had originally used a K&N on that, but too much oil was coming off the filter and getting on the MAF sensor throwing my A/F ratio out. I realize the Jeep doesnt pull nearly as much air as my Cobra did, but I just got a bad taste in my mouth from that...
Then again, I wasnt driving the Cobra on dusty roads or trails either, so I may try K&N again...
Old 07-08-2009 | 06:23 AM
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Never had an issue with oil coming off the K&N filter media, although after recharging the media I use a shop vac to remove any excess oil before installing them.
Old 07-08-2009 | 06:52 AM
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There is only one way to get more air flow into the engine without forced air induction, and that is to create ledd resistance. When it comes to air filters the only way to do this is to allow more air and dirt through the filter.
Old 07-08-2009 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Littlejon
There is only one way to get more air flow into the engine without forced air induction, and that is to create ledd resistance. When it comes to air filters the only way to do this is to allow more air and dirt through the filter.
Increasing the surface area of a filter can both increase the air flow and decrease the amount of dirt.
Old 07-08-2009 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by JPop
K&N doesn't get more air through by being more porous, they get more air through by increasing the surface area with more folds in the filter element.

This debate has ranged on for years and even the big boy paper filter companies have given in and joined the game. What's left in the wake is all the lies and half truths told of oiled air filters.
The absolute worst K&N filters are the drop in units that are the SAME surface area as stock. I've gotten this straight from a K&N rep's mouth. Not that it matters...it's not difficult to see that more air=more dirt. Well....maybe it is for some people.
Old 07-08-2009 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by CitadelJeep04
Nothing against K&N, but as a rule I dont use them. Maybe from the days I had my 03 Cobra. I had originally used a K&N on that, but too much oil was coming off the filter and getting on the MAF sensor throwing my A/F ratio out. I realize the Jeep doesnt pull nearly as much air as my Cobra did, but I just got a bad taste in my mouth from that...
Then again, I wasnt driving the Cobra on dusty roads or trails either, so I may try K&N again...
There you go, buddy. Wanna know why? Cause K&N is junk, that's why. Lemmie ask all you naysayers this.....which molecules are smaller....air or OIL?????? Case CLOSED for me. Yeah. If oil can get through it, I sure as hell don't want it on my Jeep.
Old 07-08-2009 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RedneckJeep
There you go, buddy. Wanna know why? Cause K&N is junk, that's why. Lemmie ask all you naysayers this.....which molecules are smaller....air or OIL?????? Case CLOSED for me. Yeah. If oil can get through it, I sure as hell don't want it on my Jeep.
Kinda makes you wonder how they stay in business. Selling so many filters and replacing all those engines that are ruined by them.....
Old 07-08-2009 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BaltChief
Kinda makes you wonder how they stay in business. Selling so many filters and replacing all those engines that are ruined by them.....
You're startin to make um sound like the Chrysler Corporation..........



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