JK "must have" mods
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Of all the armor, bumpers, mods, etc that I've bought. This badboy has by far gotten the most use:
Vertically Driven Products 31500 - VDP Trash Can with Cup Holders for 07-10 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec
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Vertically Driven Products 31500 - VDP Trash Can with Cup Holders for 07-10 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec
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You don't need a lot of armor, nor do you need a lot of axle reinforcement. This is just precautionary.
I do think that the c gussets are a good investment though. However, I had already wheeled moab on 35's without these and never had a problem. In fact, the axles were completely stock. I only ended up adding the gussets when I jumped to 37's. Although the actual tire/wheel combo was lighter, I did it because the tire was taller, thus adding to the moment the c's see.
I did get an Artec truss because I got a great deal on it, but never got around to installing it before the Rubicon trip we just took, but then again, no problems there either.
The JK axles are strong, it's just all in how you wheel/prefer to wheel. I mean, Dynatrac just came out with pro-rock 80 axles, because the 60 wasn't large enough...
Now, on to armor. I like armor, and I get it, but here are my thoughts. The Rubicon comes with armor, and it can take a beating (mine is BEAT), but most of the times when you use armor, it's because you needed .5-1" of clearance and you just used it to slide over something. The other scenario is that you come off of something wrong and you end up dropping the frame on something, and then its the frame, and largely not armor that is stopping you.
Back to the extra clearance idea. I've seen far too many people who put 500-700lbs of armor on and now they scrape more than ever. And it's funny because it's usually followed by "Glad I got that armor". My thought process is that of, I wonder if you would've hit at all if your jeep was 500-700lbs lighter. That much weight can easily drop a vehicle by half an inch (if not more) and that may be all you need to clear the obstacle. IMO, armor often creates its own need.
You've got stock skids, keep them for now. You've got solid axles, keep them for now. You are familiar with jeeps so go wheel and find out what you really need. You'll find that the breakover is not nearly as good as what you're used to, but they are more stable. Give and take...
I do think that the c gussets are a good investment though. However, I had already wheeled moab on 35's without these and never had a problem. In fact, the axles were completely stock. I only ended up adding the gussets when I jumped to 37's. Although the actual tire/wheel combo was lighter, I did it because the tire was taller, thus adding to the moment the c's see.
I did get an Artec truss because I got a great deal on it, but never got around to installing it before the Rubicon trip we just took, but then again, no problems there either.
The JK axles are strong, it's just all in how you wheel/prefer to wheel. I mean, Dynatrac just came out with pro-rock 80 axles, because the 60 wasn't large enough...
Now, on to armor. I like armor, and I get it, but here are my thoughts. The Rubicon comes with armor, and it can take a beating (mine is BEAT), but most of the times when you use armor, it's because you needed .5-1" of clearance and you just used it to slide over something. The other scenario is that you come off of something wrong and you end up dropping the frame on something, and then its the frame, and largely not armor that is stopping you.
Back to the extra clearance idea. I've seen far too many people who put 500-700lbs of armor on and now they scrape more than ever. And it's funny because it's usually followed by "Glad I got that armor". My thought process is that of, I wonder if you would've hit at all if your jeep was 500-700lbs lighter. That much weight can easily drop a vehicle by half an inch (if not more) and that may be all you need to clear the obstacle. IMO, armor often creates its own need.
You've got stock skids, keep them for now. You've got solid axles, keep them for now. You are familiar with jeeps so go wheel and find out what you really need. You'll find that the breakover is not nearly as good as what you're used to, but they are more stable. Give and take...
I am a natural prepper though, so I think I'll get the C gusset kit, and I just bought a 9/16" bolt kit for my TBs. I think a winch w/synthetic line, LCA skids, and some LED lights, and I should be pretty happy with it for a while.
I love that trash can kit. Will come in very handy for my 2 & 5 year olds who ride in the back.
I'm not typically a fan of air intakes, but what do you guys think of the Banks? I keep hearing good stuff. Especially since I'm getting the flashpaq.
Also, why do I see guys adding LCA drops for only a 2" lift? The JK arms are MUCH longer than the old Jeeps. Is it a good investment?