Originally Posted by mrmike

I will clarify as there seems to be confusion on what I prev posted.

For the EVO bolt on coil over system the lower mounts achieve the lower height and add UP travel. And you get LESS droop. For speed it's more important that way. I set up my ride for speed. If you don't need to drive 40mph over big bumps then you don't NEED coilovers. The dual spring rate is specifically what makes them special. Otherwise you can get enough travel from a conventional system for 90% of off road situations.

And yes going higher on the upper mounts is
The best way to go. But again I'm talking about this specific kit.


As to ICON, they were no body in the Toyota and Ford Raptor arena a few years ago. Now they are right up there with King and Fox. But as I personally don't have them on any of my rigs I won't say if of how they compare.

I would suggest calling them directly. Ask them detailed question. What up and down travel at each ride height. What do they valve their shocks for. What range if adjustability do you get with the adjuster. Are their standard spring rates set up for a basic jk or is it for steel bumpers, winch, etc.

Originally Posted by Roryslife

I will take a shot at this question:

1. because they look cool (Before you judge I would estimate that at least 75% of all mods bought by the jeep owners are purely for looks... I bet 75% of all Jeeps were bought because they look cool)

2. Icon's specifically is returnable to stock (allows someone to recoup costs if they change or sell vehicles) I assume Evo and Rebels are as well.

3. Bolt on is a big money saver vs weld on kids if you don't have the skills to do it yourself as far as welding goes.

4. Jeep suspensions come in a wide variety of price points for a reason... bolt on coil overs are just another entry that might hit the sweet spot for certain customers.

5. Weld-on kits have a greater risk of improper installation and setup vs a bolt on option where the engineering has already been done.

6. Easy adjustable height vs non coil over systems, and also adjustable valving (CDCV with Icon).

Having said all this... after I purchase, I might find that in a year or two I want to replace it with something different (as with my current setup), but I spend over 250 a days a year on the road making enough money to afford my capricious purchasing habits.

Originally Posted by Matthewd5

I definitely disagree with pretty much everything you said... i paid mid $20's for my wrangler sport with twin tops... I have put a ton of money into my Jeep and every time I thought of buying my self something for the Jeep I stopped and made sure it was something that would improve the off road performance. first mod was the EVO skid plate system. then bigger, more aggressive tires. then lift for more suspension travel. then Ace rear bumper/tire carrier to take weight off of tailgate and for bigger tires in future. Ace front bumper to support warn winch. Winch 75% practical and 25% cool factor. time to add lockers and go with bigger tires... Dynatrac d44 and d60 with chromoly axles, 5:13 gearing and overall extreme off road strength, cool factor 0%, cost factor $1#,ooo Custom made driveshafts built by off road race truck specialist $1,500 0% cool factor, nobody can even see the driveshafts or the Dynatrac axles. 37" Goodyear MTR/K's 80% off road improvement 20% cool factor.

Originally Posted by karls

If you paid $1500 for driveshafts then someone saw your desire for "cool factor" coming a mile away. You built the jeep for Jeep Jamborees (as per your own previous posts). While they are for fun, they're for learning. I would have to say that you did it for the cool factor since you (again, your own words-) were getting through just fine but wanted to go bigger.

I've stood idly by as you post your new goodies all over but come on....we all saw the buying process and the back/ forth. It came down to NR4x4 setting you up with what you needed.

I digress, go enjoy your toy. My shit is 100% cool factor- all aluminum everywhere and LED's because they make it cooler.

Originally Posted by DunnyBunny

Wow I agree with most everything he said. You are one person. And it didn't seem like he pointed you out specifically. His points were valid and made sense.

Originally Posted by Matthewd5

You also agree that the main reason we buy jeeps and modify them just to look cool? In my message I said that I was really struggling on harder trails because I didn't have lockers or more clearance... Matthew

Originally Posted by DunnyBunny

I said most of what he said. I also misread his first point a little bit. I thought at first he was saying that 75% of jeep owners buy parts just for looks. I will agree some with his post though just maybe not the percentage and not that it's solely for looks.

Originally Posted by karls

If you paid $1500 for driveshafts then someone saw your desire for "cool factor" coming a mile away. You built the jeep for Jeep Jamborees (as per your own previous posts). While they are for fun, they're for learning. I would have to say that you did it for the cool factor since you (again, your own words-) were getting through just fine but wanted to go bigger.

I've stood idly by as you post your new goodies all over but come on....we all saw the buying process and the back/ forth. It came down to NR4x4 setting you up with what you needed.

I digress, go enjoy your toy. My shit is 100% cool factor- all aluminum everywhere and LED's because they make it cooler.