How to stop the "red lightning bolt"?
09-24-2008, 08:45 PM
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Im just actually wondering.
I want to buy the kit start of the new year, but i dont see why i need to adjust my driving style to suit an aftermarket part. especially when they say there are no problems when you install the kit when they introduced it. I just wanna make sure i know everything i can about it before i decide
I want to buy the kit start of the new year, but i dont see why i need to adjust my driving style to suit an aftermarket part. especially when they say there are no problems when you install the kit when they introduced it. I just wanna make sure i know everything i can about it before i decide
09-24-2008, 09:50 PM
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As a VERY PLEASED customer, I'll try to explain everything....
first...it's not just "an aftermarket part"....It runs on it's own piggy back computer system....it changes EVERYTHING...but you WILL NOT be disappointed...
STOCK - your driving in the Jeep and wanna pass someone so you absolutely STOMP the pedal...1 sec. delay (drive by wire) then a "jolt" of throttle....only there is virtually no horse power there so it REV's high but you still get nowhere
SUPERCHARGED (NOT ONLY WITH RIPP) - same scenario....only after that 1 sec. delay (from Drive By Wire) you get a "JOLT" of throttle, only this time it's 300+ HP....BOOM...error, and you get a lightning bolt
...now ALL of this (theoretically) is happening within the first 500 miles while the JK computer "learns" that the extra power is OK...I'm sitting at about 300 miles on mine and I hardly ever get a lightning bolt
NOW how I drive the beast....in a nice straight away, I suggest 3/4 throttle, the computer reacts, the boost spools up and here comes the POWER....your launched...then I suggest full throttle after the initial acceleration, and like that your at 90 mph
....waving at the import you passed
....but letting off the throttle right next to their window so they can hear the blow off valve
....watch there jaw drop
and leave 'em in the dust.
....not that I've done this or anything...OK I did...I was excited ok
....NOT TOO BAD FOR A TOASTER ON WHEELS
first...it's not just "an aftermarket part"....It runs on it's own piggy back computer system....it changes EVERYTHING...but you WILL NOT be disappointed...
STOCK - your driving in the Jeep and wanna pass someone so you absolutely STOMP the pedal...1 sec. delay (drive by wire) then a "jolt" of throttle....only there is virtually no horse power there so it REV's high but you still get nowhere
SUPERCHARGED (NOT ONLY WITH RIPP) - same scenario....only after that 1 sec. delay (from Drive By Wire) you get a "JOLT" of throttle, only this time it's 300+ HP....BOOM...error, and you get a lightning bolt
...now ALL of this (theoretically) is happening within the first 500 miles while the JK computer "learns" that the extra power is OK...I'm sitting at about 300 miles on mine and I hardly ever get a lightning bolt
NOW how I drive the beast....in a nice straight away, I suggest 3/4 throttle, the computer reacts, the boost spools up and here comes the POWER....your launched...then I suggest full throttle after the initial acceleration, and like that your at 90 mph
....waving at the import you passed....but letting off the throttle right next to their window so they can hear the blow off valve....watch there jaw drop and leave 'em in the dust.....not that I've done this or anything...OK I did...I was excited ok
....NOT TOO BAD FOR A TOASTER ON WHEELS
09-25-2008, 05:10 AM
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Im just actually wondering.
I want to buy the kit start of the new year, but i dont see why i need to adjust my driving style to suit an aftermarket part. especially when they say there are no problems when you install the kit when they introduced it. I just wanna make sure i know everything i can about it before i decide
I want to buy the kit start of the new year, but i dont see why i need to adjust my driving style to suit an aftermarket part. especially when they say there are no problems when you install the kit when they introduced it. I just wanna make sure i know everything i can about it before i decide
This is scenario you should rarely get.... especially with the new mapping that's been going out to separate high and low octane mapping.
The only reason your more likely to see the fail safe is based on the TIRE TO GEAR RATIO..... NOT THE BLOWER.....
Please read past the I CAN'T FLOOR IT FOR $5000????? Question and grasp the fact that if you increase drive train load by installing larger diameter tires AND increase power train output with the blower - you're more likely to trigger Jeeps important (we don't want you to blow your torque converter up) fail safe system.
Your basing your question on how little power you have now and how often you floor it now.... try to anticipate the fact that when the supercharger is in place your have 30 more rear wheel HP right from idle and a total increase of 120whp throughout. You'll also find that you will be driving the boost more than the engine because the boost curve is so linear - unlike a turbo where you'll find yourself pre-spooling with more throttle input then rolling off....
Its like anything else.... you become use to it.... the problem as you see it - is resolved with proper set up and an understanding of the how the engineers projected you driving your JK.... keeping in mind, rock crawling, mudding, sand dune jumping, towing and so on.....its easy to just mash the throttle and try to over power the obstacle, in fact there a few people (even on here) that can attest to throwing the system on without a blower). The Jeep engineers suggest that if you combine the above scenario of tire and power - that they want to make sure you don't over heat or over power the transmission or over torque the drive shaft.
They light as its being reported by this client is triggering way to much in our opinion and needs to be addressed, we hope to have it resolved ASAP. As several others have reported the light is less likely to trigger than actually trigger...
Questions always welcome,
RIPPTECH
09-25-2008, 07:20 AM
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For those that have the red lightning bolt without the supercharger....good luck getting it fixed. Took Chrysler 7 times to fix it. They tried everything from flash to replacing the PCM and TB. Finally, they replaced the entire wiring harness for the Jeep and so far that has fixed the problem. Took them nealry two years to fix this issue. For my troubles, they gave me a free 100,000mi / 7year bumper to bumper warranty.
09-25-2008, 07:45 AM
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hey RIPP, what is the optimum setting for the boost conrtoler on the 2008 jk? I also adjusted the blow off valvu to about 4 or 5 threads showing, is that about right?
09-25-2008, 12:34 PM
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No problem, thats completely understandable and a fair question,
This is scenario you should rarely get.... especially with the new mapping that's been going out to separate high and low octane mapping.
The only reason your more likely to see the fail safe is based on the TIRE TO GEAR RATIO..... NOT THE BLOWER.....
Please read past the I CAN'T FLOOR IT FOR $5000????? Question and grasp the fact that if you increase drive train load by installing larger diameter tires AND increase power train output with the blower - you're more likely to trigger Jeeps important (we don't want you to blow your torque converter up) fail safe system.
Your basing your question on how little power you have now and how often you floor it now.... try to anticipate the fact that when the supercharger is in place your have 30 more rear wheel HP right from idle and a total increase of 120whp throughout. You'll also find that you will be driving the boost more than the engine because the boost curve is so linear - unlike a turbo where you'll find yourself pre-spooling with more throttle input then rolling off....
Its like anything else.... you become use to it.... the problem as you see it - is resolved with proper set up and an understanding of the how the engineers projected you driving your JK.... keeping in mind, rock crawling, mudding, sand dune jumping, towing and so on.....its easy to just mash the throttle and try to over power the obstacle, in fact there a few people (even on here) that can attest to throwing the system on without a blower). The Jeep engineers suggest that if you combine the above scenario of tire and power - that they want to make sure you don't over heat or over power the transmission or over torque the drive shaft.
They light as its being reported by this client is triggering way to much in our opinion and needs to be addressed, we hope to have it resolved ASAP. As several others have reported the light is less likely to trigger than actually trigger...
Questions always welcome,
RIPPTECH
This is scenario you should rarely get.... especially with the new mapping that's been going out to separate high and low octane mapping.
The only reason your more likely to see the fail safe is based on the TIRE TO GEAR RATIO..... NOT THE BLOWER.....
Please read past the I CAN'T FLOOR IT FOR $5000????? Question and grasp the fact that if you increase drive train load by installing larger diameter tires AND increase power train output with the blower - you're more likely to trigger Jeeps important (we don't want you to blow your torque converter up) fail safe system.
Your basing your question on how little power you have now and how often you floor it now.... try to anticipate the fact that when the supercharger is in place your have 30 more rear wheel HP right from idle and a total increase of 120whp throughout. You'll also find that you will be driving the boost more than the engine because the boost curve is so linear - unlike a turbo where you'll find yourself pre-spooling with more throttle input then rolling off....
Its like anything else.... you become use to it.... the problem as you see it - is resolved with proper set up and an understanding of the how the engineers projected you driving your JK.... keeping in mind, rock crawling, mudding, sand dune jumping, towing and so on.....its easy to just mash the throttle and try to over power the obstacle, in fact there a few people (even on here) that can attest to throwing the system on without a blower). The Jeep engineers suggest that if you combine the above scenario of tire and power - that they want to make sure you don't over heat or over power the transmission or over torque the drive shaft.
They light as its being reported by this client is triggering way to much in our opinion and needs to be addressed, we hope to have it resolved ASAP. As several others have reported the light is less likely to trigger than actually trigger...
Questions always welcome,
RIPPTECH
My problem is, even with 360 HP in my drift car, my foot is still always on the floor :(
09-25-2008, 01:24 PM
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09-28-2008, 08:33 AM
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10-03-2008, 05:20 PM
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just got my jeep out of the shop and so far no light. the gears seem to help, but they chatter like crazy so it is going back. the boost control really makes a differance. the new gears put the rpm's right where they need to be with the 35's.