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Old 04-09-2008, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue
True. However, an automatic X with 4.1 axle ratio's are better than you may think. it would still need better gears for the 35s.

For my automatic 2007 X:

Crawl ratio = 1st gear X t-case X diff X 2

Crawl Ratio = 2.84 x 2.72 x 4.1 x 2

Crawl ratio = 63.34:1

Manual:

Crawl = 4.34 x 2.72 X 3.21

Crawl = 37.89 (or 48.4 with optional 4.1)

Where do you get the "2" from in the automatic calculation?

I would recommend 5.13's with an Auto.
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Originally Posted by JSexton
Thanks for the info. Another ?? is how will the 5.13's on the 10 hour, avg speed 75 mph, trip??
Have done several long haul trips, my gears have over 10K miles on them no worries. Longest trip so far 15 hours one way. I thinking I am pulling around 2600 rpms at 75 mph?? Not sure I would have to check that to confirm.
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Im going with 5.13's
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Originally Posted by JSexton
I have an Unlimited X (automatic) and plan on running 35's. It's a daily driver and will see moderate trail use. I will also be taking several 10 hour roadtrips per year. Any good ideas about what will work better 4.88's or 5.13's??

Any help or insight will be greatly appreciated.

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Future Plans: 2.5 Teraflex, 35x12.5x17 BFG M/T's, 4.88 or 5.13 Gears and lots of underbody armor!!

I just got mine back from the shop and can tell you also, dont' waste time with the 4.88s. I got 5.13 with my auto and 35s. I wouldn't want any less for sure. My rpms were just under 2500 at 70MPH(by GPS)
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Originally Posted by Boxrcon
Where do you get the "2" from in the automatic calculation?
I'm curious as well.

I thought crawl ratio was calculated by multiplying your first gear, times your low range transfer case gear, times your differential gear, as you did for the manual trans.
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I really appreciate all the advice and personal knowledge. I am definitely going with the 5.13's!! The Hypertech sounds good too. But all other MODS will have to wait after the the lift, tires and gears. My wife is armed and dangerous and I really don't want to piss her off more than once a year!! So, CAI, exhaust, bumpers and body armor will have to wait another year.

Thanks again, All.

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Originally Posted by hiteck
I'm curious as well.

I thought crawl ratio was calculated by multiplying your first gear, times your low range transfer case gear, times your differential gear, as you did for the manual trans.

x2.........?
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Originally Posted by hiteck
I'm curious as well.

I thought crawl ratio was calculated by multiplying your first gear, times your low range transfer case gear, times your differential gear, as you did for the manual trans.
Originally Posted by Offroad
x2.........?

The torque converter multiplies off-idle torque be 2 to 3x. Since I don't know the exact value for the JK tranny, I used 2x.

Where big tires on a stock jk kill you the most of course is in 3rd gear (1:1) or overdrive (0.67:1)

Originally Posted by Boxrcon
Where do you get the "2" from in the automatic calculation?

I would recommend 5.13's with an Auto.
I would too, but I would also recommend them for a manual even more.

Edit: Look on page 136 of the 4-Wheelers bible, plus here is a pretty good site on explaining crawl ratios including auto transmissions webejeepin.com/Gears.htm

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Wow. Glad I came across this post. Just got off the phone with Dave at Northridge and I'll be getting the gears and an OME lift here in a few weeks.

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