Front or Rear Locker First
05-20-2012, 04:13 PM
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X2 or what ever it is up to for putting the locker in the rear. I've done most the major trails in Moab with out a front locker. Front lockers are great for stair step ledges that you are going straight up, and suck when you have to try to turn. I have the limited slip rear in my JK and it is no were near what my ARB is in my XJ. I have to work the JK a lot harder than the XJ to go over the same obstical.
X2 on a waste of money in putting a locker in the D30. If you sit down and really look at the numbers of a ProRoc and compare it against beefing up a D30 it comes out to about $1000 and you still have the weaker axle shafts. And its still a D30. it may or may not be sale able and if it does sale you won't get out of it what you have put into it, I would guess about half if you are lucky because every one would rather up grade to a D44 or D60. Its like putting a bandaid on a broken bone.
Another option that is out there is the RubiCrawler or putting in a Rubicon T-case. the 4 to 1 low range makes a big differance. I put a TeraLow T-case in my XJ before I put an ARB in the rear and I ran Metal Masher, Steel Bender, Hells Revenge and many others with out being locked up just fine. That's the beauty of mechanical advantage.
X2 on a waste of money in putting a locker in the D30. If you sit down and really look at the numbers of a ProRoc and compare it against beefing up a D30 it comes out to about $1000 and you still have the weaker axle shafts. And its still a D30. it may or may not be sale able and if it does sale you won't get out of it what you have put into it, I would guess about half if you are lucky because every one would rather up grade to a D44 or D60. Its like putting a bandaid on a broken bone.
Another option that is out there is the RubiCrawler or putting in a Rubicon T-case. the 4 to 1 low range makes a big differance. I put a TeraLow T-case in my XJ before I put an ARB in the rear and I ran Metal Masher, Steel Bender, Hells Revenge and many others with out being locked up just fine. That's the beauty of mechanical advantage.
05-20-2012, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by grumpy1
X2 or what ever it is up to for putting the locker in the rear. I've done most the major trails in Moab with out a front locker. Front lockers are great for stair step ledges that you are going straight up, and suck when you have to try to turn. I have the limited slip rear in my JK and it is no were near what my ARB is in my XJ. I have to work the JK a lot harder than the XJ to go over the same obstical.
X2 on a waste of money in putting a locker in the D30. If you sit down and really look at the numbers of a ProRoc and compare it against beefing up a D30 it comes out to about $1000 and you still have the weaker axle shafts. And its still a D30. it may or may not be sale able and if it does sale you won't get out of it what you have put into it, I would guess about half if you are lucky because every one would rather up grade to a D44 or D60. Its like putting a bandaid on a broken bone.
Another option that is out there is the RubiCrawler or putting in a Rubicon T-case. the 4 to 1 low range makes a big differance. I put a TeraLow T-case in my XJ before I put an ARB in the rear and I ran Metal Masher, Steel Bender, Hells Revenge and many others with out being locked up just fine. That's the beauty of mechanical advantage.
X2 on a waste of money in putting a locker in the D30. If you sit down and really look at the numbers of a ProRoc and compare it against beefing up a D30 it comes out to about $1000 and you still have the weaker axle shafts. And its still a D30. it may or may not be sale able and if it does sale you won't get out of it what you have put into it, I would guess about half if you are lucky because every one would rather up grade to a D44 or D60. Its like putting a bandaid on a broken bone.
Another option that is out there is the RubiCrawler or putting in a Rubicon T-case. the 4 to 1 low range makes a big differance. I put a TeraLow T-case in my XJ before I put an ARB in the rear and I ran Metal Masher, Steel Bender, Hells Revenge and many others with out being locked up just fine. That's the beauty of mechanical advantage.
05-23-2012, 02:27 PM
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I agree with those saying don't put a locker in the d30 unless you are also going to upgrade the driveshafts while you are in there... otherwise I would wheel with extra driveshafts which actually wouldn't be that big of a deal since OEM d30 driveshafts are pretty cheap.
05-23-2012, 02:59 PM
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If u rock crawl start with front. If u are a mud guy go rear. I'm a rock crawler and did front first and couldn't be happier. Huge difference pulling yourself over rocks versus trying to push yourself over.
05-23-2012, 08:21 PM
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I sleeved, gusseted and locked my D30 for a total of under $600.
The D30 is a stronger than most people think. I've wheeled the shit out of my Jeep for the past 4 years and always thought I was being pretty hard on it. When the axle was pulled apart to do the installs EVERYTHING looked great. When my shafts break, then I'll upgrade them.
I chose to do the front first and keep the worthless stock LSD in the back. I talked to reps from differential companies, locker companies, retailers, KoH racers, etc. They all had different opinions but agreed that if the plan was to do both eventually, I couldn't go wrong no matter which one I started with.
The D30 is a stronger than most people think. I've wheeled the shit out of my Jeep for the past 4 years and always thought I was being pretty hard on it. When the axle was pulled apart to do the installs EVERYTHING looked great. When my shafts break, then I'll upgrade them.
I chose to do the front first and keep the worthless stock LSD in the back. I talked to reps from differential companies, locker companies, retailers, KoH racers, etc. They all had different opinions but agreed that if the plan was to do both eventually, I couldn't go wrong no matter which one I started with.
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05-23-2012, 10:08 PM
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Yeah they drive better, you don't have to fight the locker when turning on dry pavement. Also on wet pavement, a locker isn't always a good thing either. Also I've known a couple of friends that have broken a rear axle shaft on a D44 on dry pavement with a Detroit in the rear, it could have been from hard wheeling, bad axle or something else. but the fact that it did steered me towards ARBs that and I have a compressor on the trail too.
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05-24-2012, 12:19 AM
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I've done both front (d30) and rear but if could only do one would definately be the rear. It is a stronger axle and in my experience more useful. Major loss in steering with front locked.