Esp bas light after tie rod install
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Do a little googling about the "jk steering wheel centering"
But long story short yes your wheel looks straight but it might be one click or another off true computer center..... When the wheel is centered according to the onboard jeep computer the light will go out shortly after....
The alignment shop can't help you and they probably have you darn close... It's a jeep thing.... Honestly I think proper procedure is to straighten the wheel via the computer then get an alignment.
Here is the manual for the AEV... Just as a FYI.. This might help explain how it works better..
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As I said the AEV Pro cal has the ability to walk you through a procedure to find what straight is according to the ESP computer.
Do a little googling about the "jk steering wheel centering"
But long story short yes your wheel looks straight but it might be one click or another off true computer center..... When the wheel is centered according to the onboard jeep computer the light will go out shortly after....
The alignment shop can't help you and they probably have you darn close... It's a jeep thing.... Honestly I think proper procedure is to straighten the wheel via the computer then get an alignment.
Here is the manual for the AEV... Just as a FYI.. This might help explain how it works better..
<img src="https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=496928"/>
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Perhaps someone with a pro cal could help you out too. I don't know if the steering center portion is vin locked.... It might just be an open tech feature.....
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I get the feeling you may be relying on the programmer and the alignment as considering your steering straight. I am not questioning your idea of straight so I am going to throw this out there. While your front wheels are pointing straight ahead take a look at your steering wheel and see if the Jeep logo on the steering wheel is level and not angled left or right. I know this sounds elementary but a lot of people overlook this when dealing with lifts and it is a simple adjustable fix. The other thing I would check is your drive train underneath just to make sure it is not dirty as I sometimes have an issue with my light coming on after I go wheeling and until I wash my undercarriage with a pressure cleaner it doesn't go off. The minute is gets all the mud or muck off it turns off so it could be the sensor as well. All in all these may not work but it works for me so I figured I would pass it along.
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Holy crap there was a lot of wrong info in this thread
You replace the tie rod and your lights came on ( and what does the tie rod effect TOE) your toe was off because of the new TR so when you got your ailment done that fixed it
You checking our trying to fix your steering wheel had nothing to do with it and wouldn't have fix your issue
You replace the tie rod and your lights came on ( and what does the tie rod effect TOE) your toe was off because of the new TR so when you got your ailment done that fixed it
You checking our trying to fix your steering wheel had nothing to do with it and wouldn't have fix your issue
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I helped a friend install the Synergy tie rod just a couple months ago. Basically the same experience. Tow was off, so we adjusted: 1/8" toe in at the front of the tires. Took for test drive and steering wheel was off. He has ProCal, so we used it to recenter. Never had an ESP light, but we would have had he driven it very far and hard.
As for doing the steering wheel centering without a ProCal: I've probably done it several dozen times, having helped folks install many lifts over the years. Never had a problem getting the steering wheel successfully centered, though it might take a couple tries and it is VERY sensitive--it better be exactly straight when driving. ProCal is not really necessary if you already have something else to take care of your tire size (if other than stock sizes).
Also, those are the only two adjustments an alignment shop can do for you on a Jeep unless you've installed some other hardware that can be aligned: Front lower control arms are the most common because they allow you to adjust castor and take care of the "driving on ice" feeling of a lifted vehicle. Adjustable track bars are also common with lifts because they let you recenter the axles. There isn't any of that which you can't adjust yourself. Save some money and do it yourself. This is especially critical as you add more mods to your Jeep because most CAR alignment shops will have no idea how to properly align your Jeep, which will no longer be set to factory specs after enough mods. Strongly suggest you start doing this yourself. Here's how:
Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource » Basic Do-it-Yourself Jeep JK Wrangler Front End Alignment
As for doing the steering wheel centering without a ProCal: I've probably done it several dozen times, having helped folks install many lifts over the years. Never had a problem getting the steering wheel successfully centered, though it might take a couple tries and it is VERY sensitive--it better be exactly straight when driving. ProCal is not really necessary if you already have something else to take care of your tire size (if other than stock sizes).
Also, those are the only two adjustments an alignment shop can do for you on a Jeep unless you've installed some other hardware that can be aligned: Front lower control arms are the most common because they allow you to adjust castor and take care of the "driving on ice" feeling of a lifted vehicle. Adjustable track bars are also common with lifts because they let you recenter the axles. There isn't any of that which you can't adjust yourself. Save some money and do it yourself. This is especially critical as you add more mods to your Jeep because most CAR alignment shops will have no idea how to properly align your Jeep, which will no longer be set to factory specs after enough mods. Strongly suggest you start doing this yourself. Here's how:
Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource » Basic Do-it-Yourself Jeep JK Wrangler Front End Alignment
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Holy crap there was a lot of wrong info in this thread
You replace the tie rod and your lights came on ( and what does the tie rod effect TOE) your toe was off because of the new TR so when you got your ailment done that fixed it
You checking our trying to fix your steering wheel had nothing to do with it and wouldn't have fix your issue
You replace the tie rod and your lights came on ( and what does the tie rod effect TOE) your toe was off because of the new TR so when you got your ailment done that fixed it
You checking our trying to fix your steering wheel had nothing to do with it and wouldn't have fix your issue