E-85 Conversions?
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Redneck, I do realize that MPG is less than 87, and I do know all the pros and cons of using corn instead of 90% oil- but I have many relatives in Iowa & Nebraska and choose to support them not foreign oil producing countries - if I had a choice, I still would go ahead with conversion.
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If your looking to save money on fuel then E85 is not the way to go. It's much less efficient. The money you think you save per gallon won't add up to the severe decline in MPG. If your looking at saving the planet by using less gas then think about the food (corn)that's being used to make it? Notice an increase in your groceries? The big ethanol push is slowing rapidly since it takes as much energy to produce it as it creates. Unless your getting ethanol from beets or sugar cane than your wasting your time.
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$2.70 for ethanol and $3.85 for 85 unleaded here in Fort Fun.
(Yeah, our low grade is 85 octane since we start at 5000 feet and only go up from there. The JK runs fine on it.)
(Yeah, our low grade is 85 octane since we start at 5000 feet and only go up from there. The JK runs fine on it.)
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From your remarks I assume you have a E-85 vehicle or have personally seen the difference in fuel economy? My dad says he lost 2 MPG in his Ford P/U but will continue to use it. He pays .50 cents less on average per gallon. I think we have enough corn to use here in the states- we don't need to feed the world. This could be used in conjunction with other cellulose types of alternatives. Remember farmers may eventually start growing other types of crops such as sugar cane in Brazil ti minimize impact. We just got our first station offering E-85, prior to this one the closest one was Tucson, about 100 miles from me. My family is in Iowa and they keep adding pumps there. As far as the hype on groceries- its simple higher fuel costs are the main reason for the spike- not corn based E-85. Everything you buy cost more.
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What I like about e85 is that if everyone were to use it, we'd practically eliminate our need for foreign oil. Brazil did it and it's working out well for them. Unfortunately here in the US, we've got too many politicians getting hand outs from big oil and I highly doubt we'll ever be able to go e85 completely. Oil companies are making record profits while we all pay far more at the pump, then they turn around and tell us it's not their greed, it's foreign oil costs more per barrel, which is why we are all paying so much more.
If I could get e85 I'd use it, just to stick it to the man. lol
If I could get e85 I'd use it, just to stick it to the man. lol
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What I like about e85 is that if everyone were to use it, we'd practically eliminate our need for foreign oil. Brazil did it and it's working out well for them. Unfortunately here in the US, we've got too many politicians getting hand outs from big oil and I highly doubt we'll ever be able to go e85 completely. Oil companies are making record profits while we all pay far more at the pump, then they turn around and tell us it's not their greed, it's foreign oil costs more per barrel, which is why we are all paying so much more.
If I could get e85 I'd use it, just to stick it to the man. lol
If I could get e85 I'd use it, just to stick it to the man. lol
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Oh I agree with you on the corn, as it's not very efficient and it would impact the farmers. Frankly, I'd support getting sugar cane from Cuba or anywhere else if it will cut down on our reliance on foreign oil.