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Death Wobble for the First Time

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Old 09-17-2014 | 09:44 AM
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Have you seen this thread? https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/jk-w...obbles-260145/
Old 09-17-2014 | 09:52 AM
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Yep TeraFlex.. it was the first thing I mentioned to Firestone and two other shops before I finished they were checking everything according to the videos and write up.. Like I said.. it was my first post here thanking JKF and PJK for the writeups..

Even thou there could be an issue hidden.. we've demanded that:

Americas rough roads..
Timing/Angle of hitting the bumps..
Extra weight in the rear of the jeep..
Unbalanced tires..

and yet I still feel a slight shimmy on the passanger side front wheel area.. I guess the last word on this is when we buy new tires.. and hope that the wobble was cause by one of the goodyear tires SR-A being ill formed or even out of round..

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Old 09-17-2014 | 10:00 AM
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We have seen that sometimes worn tires being the cause of DW. Have you tried swapping your spare with the passenger front tire?
Old 09-17-2014 | 10:25 AM
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Here is a bit more detail into our wobble.. Upon the purchase of the 08 two years ago.. I did notice a slight shimmy in the general area as mentioned above.. But I was more focused on the tires. The mud terrians did not impress us.. swapping these tires with another jeeper.. we got his Goodyear SR-A's for the next year.. the shimmey grew more.. rotating the tires every 5k miles even rotating in the spare.. But after this past travel.. we went through the checklist.. balancing was first.. turns out that 3 of the 5 tires were not balanced at all.. and this was my fault for not having this done upon swapping tires with that jeeper..

Then having the alignment checked.. three shops concluded that there isn't anything wrong or to that which they could see without deconstruction.. about the only suggestion I've heard that doesn't mention replacing everything costing 2000 or more.. is that the steering stabilizer could be failing.. and on the cusp of 70k miles.. we do have a list of things we are checking into.. So unless Firestone and two other shops just aren't checking the right parts etc.. what ever it is on our stock jeep, yet with replaced/new skyjacker shocks.. what other suggestions do you have other then what we've already looked for and at.
I'm at a point where I'm beginning to feel the shocks are to blame.. yet I still think about those tires.. Air pressure, out of round who knows.. Thanks for stepping in..
Old 09-17-2014 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AngryRedBird
Here is a bit more detail into our wobble.. Upon the purchase of the 08 two years ago.. I did notice a slight shimmy in the general area as mentioned above.. But I was more focused on the tires. The mud terrians did not impress us.. swapping these tires with another jeeper.. we got his Goodyear SR-A's for the next year.. the shimmey grew more.. rotating the tires every 5k miles even rotating in the spare.. But after this past travel.. we went through the checklist.. balancing was first.. turns out that 3 of the 5 tires were not balanced at all.. and this was my fault for not having this done upon swapping tires with that jeeper..

Then having the alignment checked.. three shops concluded that there isn't anything wrong or to that which they could see without deconstruction.. about the only suggestion I've heard that doesn't mention replacing everything costing 2000 or more.. is that the steering stabilizer could be failing.. and on the cusp of 70k miles.. we do have a list of things we are checking into.. So unless Firestone and two other shops just aren't checking the right parts etc.. what ever it is on our stock jeep, yet with replaced/new skyjacker shocks.. what other suggestions do you have other then what we've already looked for and at.
I'm at a point where I'm beginning to feel the shocks are to blame.. yet I still think about those tires.. Air pressure, out of round who knows.. Thanks for stepping in..
So what you are saying is that you never checked for yourself and you are relying on shop to give you the info

Hopefully this shop is a family friend or someone close to you if not I wouldn't trust a word out of their mouth , gets some local jk guys and check your front end with them yourself
Old 09-17-2014 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jaker t5
Wow did you guys that never got it fixed check the mount holes on the axle and frame side

Even a slight no perfect hole in those mounts is enough play to get the DW
Exactly....bolt kits will not helped in an egged out hole

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Old 09-17-2014 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jaker t5
So what you are saying is that you never checked for yourself and you are relying on shop to give you the info

Hopefully this shop is a family friend or someone close to you if not I wouldn't trust a word out of their mouth , gets some local jk guys and check your front end with them yourself
I'm guilty on this account.. but three shops and two shops I've used since 2004 and have never had an issues.. they say the same as Firestone.. I just feel something or someone is missing something.. but three times.. and none found anything wrong.. thats like going to the dr and one tells you that you have cancer.. you're going to get a second and maybe even a third option. I simply can not believe a shop would deliberately lie knowing that if they did find an issue I would allow them to handle it.

Seeing how Red has suggested that we do the spark plugs this weekend.. I'll run over a few test myself with her.. and report any findings..
Old 09-17-2014 | 12:44 PM
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Do you know if the balljoints have ever been replaced? Just throwing that out there. Good luck with this. FYI TeraFlex has started on a "Death Wobble" video finally.
Old 09-17-2014 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TeraFlex
Do you know if the balljoints have ever been replaced? Just throwing that out there.
Flex.. if I can call you this.. the ball joints appear to be factory and original.. other than that I couldn't be more specific.. However, something came to mind.. while purchasing the jeep.. The horn didn't work.. I asked the sales rep to have this fixed before we drove it off the lot.. but I heard one of the tech/reps someone in the background whisper: "Isn't that the one that was wrecked?" yet the carfax proves nothing has been done to the jeep etc.. we are the third owners..

Scanning the forums, something came to mind.. I wonder if the TPMS installed in the wheels are different.. Does everyone who has suffered with this wobble also have these TPMS in their wheels?.. I was even going to have these removed.. I'm having more issue with them than without them.. several times the light has went off because the tire expands beyond that 40 psi range especially right after rotation.. seem the system doesn't register right away.. I do recall when the jeeper swapped his tires I checked all of the tires psi and one came back nearly 70 psi.. so I wonder if removing the TPMS would make any difference, true I know the tires would have to be balanced again..and the fuse removed from the box.. Also.. I realize that I've asked the tire guys not to over tighten the lugs so that I can rotate my tires.. and some have but I was able to remove them and set the lugs myself.. would the improper spec on the lugs or incorrect seating of the tire on the rotor/hub make a difference..

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Old 09-17-2014 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AngryRedBird
Flex.. if I can call you this.. the ball joints appear to be factory and original.. other than that I couldn't be more specific.. However, something came to mind.. while purchasing the jeep.. The horn didn't work.. I asked the sales rep to have this fixed before we drove it off the lot.. but I heard one of the tech/reps someone in the background whisper: "Isn't that the one that was wrecked?" yet the carfax proves nothing has been done to the jeep etc.. we are the third owners..
If they are original and you have a 2008, I would say that they are most likely bad.

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