Dana 44's and 37's
07-23-2015, 11:21 AM
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I would at the very least gusset the C's. If money and time allow I would still recomend a truss or sleeves even for 35's. Chromoly axles all around if you can afford it.
07-23-2015, 12:52 PM
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If you want 37's go 37s. You're going to look at your 35s and wish you had 37s every time you look at it. I know I did. Just make sure you truss/gusset and upgrade your axle shafts. Just take it easy until you do.
07-24-2015, 07:49 AM
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As some of you know, I traded my 2011 2door in on a 2015 JKU Rubicon. Planning on a 4" lift and 37" Nitto Trail grapplers. Going with Adams DS front and back. The lift may be a Rubicon but not sure yet. Looking at ProComp also, among a few others. Question is, the axels should be just fine with 37's right?
07-24-2015, 08:35 AM
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I know I gave my word of caution, but just saw this picture and wanted to reiterate it. While people are not out breaking axles everyday, it can happen, even with the right precautions. Picture attached is of an axle with weld in axle sleeves. Guy was commuting home from work, pulled in the driveway and heard a pop. Came out a bit later to fluid in the driveway and found his axle broken. Good news is that the sleeves prevented more serious damage or even an accident.
Point is, you have to at least understand that you are playing the odds. Good chance it won't happen, but possible that it could. And be mentally prepared for the cost to fix it should it happen. What I have found interesting is the number of broken axles I have been seeing lately that are sleeved or trussed. It helps, but I am starting to question how much it helps. Maybe my local club is an anomaly, but we have a pretty high rate of bent and broken axles. I'd say most of them are not on forums. I've often suggested that there is a lack of data points resulting in a bias view that axle issues are rare. I think most of those data points don't make it to the forums.
Point is, you have to at least understand that you are playing the odds. Good chance it won't happen, but possible that it could. And be mentally prepared for the cost to fix it should it happen. What I have found interesting is the number of broken axles I have been seeing lately that are sleeved or trussed. It helps, but I am starting to question how much it helps. Maybe my local club is an anomaly, but we have a pretty high rate of bent and broken axles. I'd say most of them are not on forums. I've often suggested that there is a lack of data points resulting in a bias view that axle issues are rare. I think most of those data points don't make it to the forums.
07-24-2015, 08:46 AM
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I know I gave my word of caution, but just saw this picture and wanted to reiterate it. While people are not out breaking axles everyday, it can happen, even with the right precautions. Picture attached is of an axle with weld in axle sleeves. Guy was commuting home from work, pulled in the driveway and heard a pop. Came out a bit later to fluid in the driveway and found his axle broken. Good news is that the sleeves prevented more serious damage or even an accident.
Point is, you have to at least understand that you are playing the odds. Good chance it won't happen, but possible that it could. And be mentally prepared for the cost to fix it should it happen. What I have found interesting is the number of broken axles I have been seeing lately that are sleeved or trussed. It helps, but I am starting to question how much it helps. Maybe my local club is an anomaly, but we have a pretty high rate of bent and broken axles. I'd say most of them are not on forums. I've often suggested that there is a lack of data points resulting in a bias view that axle issues are rare. I think most of those data points don't make it to the forums.
<img src="https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=619117"/>
Point is, you have to at least understand that you are playing the odds. Good chance it won't happen, but possible that it could. And be mentally prepared for the cost to fix it should it happen. What I have found interesting is the number of broken axles I have been seeing lately that are sleeved or trussed. It helps, but I am starting to question how much it helps. Maybe my local club is an anomaly, but we have a pretty high rate of bent and broken axles. I'd say most of them are not on forums. I've often suggested that there is a lack of data points resulting in a bias view that axle issues are rare. I think most of those data points don't make it to the forums.
<img src="https://www.jk-forum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=619117"/>
One was as simple as a pothole...which here in Michigan are more like caverns. And this was with 33's.
Point is, these are very weak and as Invest stated, for every one you hear of on the forums, probably 4 or 5 others happened.
Makes a full axle swap upgrade all the more appealing
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07-24-2015, 09:57 AM
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I know I gave my word of caution, but just saw this picture and wanted to reiterate it. While people are not out breaking axles everyday, it can happen, even with the right precautions. Picture attached is of an axle with weld in axle sleeves. Guy was commuting home from work, pulled in the driveway and heard a pop. Came out a bit later to fluid in the driveway and found his axle broken. Good news is that the sleeves prevented more serious damage or even an accident.
Point is, you have to at least understand that you are playing the odds. Good chance it won't happen, but possible that it could. And be mentally prepared for the cost to fix it should it happen. What I have found interesting is the number of broken axles I have been seeing lately that are sleeved or trussed. It helps, but I am starting to question how much it helps. Maybe my local club is an anomaly, but we have a pretty high rate of bent and broken axles. I'd say most of them are not on forums. I've often suggested that there is a lack of data points resulting in a bias view that axle issues are rare. I think most of those data points don't make it to the forums.
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Point is, you have to at least understand that you are playing the odds. Good chance it won't happen, but possible that it could. And be mentally prepared for the cost to fix it should it happen. What I have found interesting is the number of broken axles I have been seeing lately that are sleeved or trussed. It helps, but I am starting to question how much it helps. Maybe my local club is an anomaly, but we have a pretty high rate of bent and broken axles. I'd say most of them are not on forums. I've often suggested that there is a lack of data points resulting in a bias view that axle issues are rare. I think most of those data points don't make it to the forums.
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07-24-2015, 10:24 AM
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Excellent points. I've seen a few incidents in a non-wheeling situation where tubes have cracked.
One was as simple as a pothole...which here in Michigan are more like caverns. And this was with 33's.
Point is, these are very weak and as Invest stated, for every one you hear of on the forums, probably 4 or 5 others happened.
Makes a full axle swap upgrade all the more appealing
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One was as simple as a pothole...which here in Michigan are more like caverns. And this was with 33's.
Point is, these are very weak and as Invest stated, for every one you hear of on the forums, probably 4 or 5 others happened.
Makes a full axle swap upgrade all the more appealing
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My friend & I are doing a sleeve & Artec truss on a Ruby 44 right now and it's going in an XJ and hopefully get rid of all the funky steering on that thing and have a better front axle assembly as well.
07-24-2015, 10:26 AM
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07-24-2015, 10:47 AM
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Gussets, tube, trusses, fully welded diffs to tubes are all relatively cheap additional insurance and you can always find a local fellow wheeler who like to fire up his MIG. The only thing I don't like about trusses are that they can pre-stress the tubes in the wrong direction.
07-24-2015, 10:53 AM
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Gussets, tube, trusses, fully welded diffs to tubes are all relatively cheap additional insurance and you can always find a local fellow wheeler who like to fire up his MIG. The only thing I don't like about trusses are that they can pre-stress the tubes in the wrong direction.